Rokinon cine lenses arriving!

I probably will fill the 50mm gap with a zoom lens. These are nice lenses for any camera be it an AF100, 5D3, F3 or GH3 and they can be used on future cameras. When you don't have to deal with electronics the EF mount is versatile.

The 14 T3.1 and 24 T1.5 arrived yesterday so I tried them on my 5D3 and F3. Both nice and there was a sharpness drop on the 24 at wide open aperture but looked good. Not much focus change on the 14mm, once you past 1m it's all in focus just like how my Tokina 11-16 is. I usually put the Tokina at 0.7m and then I don't have to change focus.

These lenses are great for all of us that can't afford PL lenses or don't think they are worth it. I figure if I ever really need PL lenses I'll rent them for use on my F3.
 
Paul Hudson said:
Yes. You would think the 50mm would have come first.
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Yeah, the 50mm is supposed to be the easiest lens of all to make, but Samyang/Rokinon hasn't made one. They've said it was in development, but that's been quite awhile. I thought they would just use the tube and gearing off of another lens, like the 85mm and have it done quickly.

It will be interesting to see if its T1.5 to match the others (then it would be 24, 35, 50, 85 all at T1.5), or T1.3/F1.2.

The last thing they told me is they don't have a month in mind to deliver it. Just sometime in 2013.
 
After the 50mm, which I hope there will be a lot of good work put on from Rokinon so they make a great lens, it would be really nice to have a 100mm macro to complete their line of lenses.

And after that again they can start to work on a range of fast zoom lenses with a nice useful range ! (just dreaming)
 
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S.Blanchardon said:
After the 50mm, which I hope there will be a lot of good work put on from Rokinon so they make a great lens, it would be really nice to have a 100mm macro to complete their line of lenses.

And after that again they can start to work on a range of fast zoom lenses with a nice useful range ! (just dreaming)
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I so agree. A fast cine zoom would be nice but to accomplish that usually requires adding a ton of weight. At my age I hate carrying around a Cooke or Optimo prime.
 
Paul Hudson said:
Haha. I do a lot of hand held and a Cine Zoom is a beast.
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Yep. You know you're in trouble when the lens weighs more than the camera, monitor, battery, etc combined.

For indoors hand held I tend to go with my 17-35mm Nikon. I noticed Zach Zamboni was using a Panavized 17-35mm with his F3 when shooting No Reservations. I think they work well together.
 
LeavingTheCandy said:
Love No Reservations shooting! I didn't realize that it was F3. Kudos to their team--well shot, great story/creative.
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Zach said the first season was an EX3 with a lens adapter. Occasional, limited DSLR use. Recently tried a Canon C300. But yeah, a large majority of the recent stuff is F3. Panivized lenses for awhile.

Recently for The Layover they ordered a bunch of new Angie lenses for the team. https://twitter.com/TCSfilm/status/211214594595749889/photo/1 It sounds like their budget went up when they switched from the Travel Channel to CNN.

Most recently using the Fuji 19-90 Cabrios lens. https://twitter.com/zachzamboni/status/273477212815118337/photo/1
And a custom arm for the TV Logic monitor.
 
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Those Angenieux's are a site to behold! It's shocking to me that the budget on a show like that can justify that much! There's $300K of glass on that cart!
I recently got a DP 30-80. It is very awesome, indeed! Absolutely zero breathing--nada, none, zero!

I'd like to get my mitts on a 19-90, but I love the size of the Angie's and 30-80 is where I live 90% of the time.
 
Quick question... we've been comparing them to Nikons and what not.

But how does these compare to the Canon Ls in image quality alone?

I have a set of the 24-70, the 70-200 II and the 100mm macro, so basically I'm covering a decent area, but these are all 2.8 and the 24-70 is not really great in the wide end.
Would I gain anything at all image wise by getting the Samyang cines?
 
The Canon 24-70 drops in resolution quite a bit a F2.8. Actually it drops off quickly on both ends. Look at the chart here:

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The Samyang 24mm f1.4 is not the best of Samyang's offerings and is shown here:

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The center sharpness of the Samyang is a little better at f5.6 at about 46lpmm compared ot the Canon at about 44lpmm. However at F4 the Canon is better. Note that the Samyang drops off quickly at both ends, just in different locations. Anything above 35lpmm and up is sharp.

The Samyang 35mm F1.4 is a different story though. It has a much flatter resolution curve. If you are using 40lpmm as the cut off for "very sharp" the 35mm has five different F stop settings that are that sharp. The Canon has three. The Samyang 24mm has three.

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Pretty much every possible setting on the Samyang 35mm is good to great.
 
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Just got my Walimex Pro 85mm today !

Put it quickly on the FS700 thanks to the native E-mount on the lens (which btw I haven't seen anywhere else but at Foto-Walser Germany) and so far so good !

Didn't had time to do extensive testings (must do a test session with the 24 and 35mm) but the image quality is very good and on an other note, both focus and aperture rings/gears are very smooth and easy to work with.

My 2 cents,
Stephane.
 
Hi, i'll be upgrading to a 5D Mk. III soon and need to upgrade to some full frame lenses too.

I want to get quality stuff that will last me for quite a while (future proof if you will). I've worked with Zeiss ZE (Canon mount) primes before and simply love them. Awesome built quality, image quality, etc.

They were my first choice after trying them in person a few times, but know i'm also looking at the Rokinon Cine lenses as an option, very attractive because of the price, manual controls and de-clicked aperture.


Any opinions or pro and cons of one or the other? How their built quality and image quaity compared to the Zeiss?

Any comments are welcome
 
eiker_ir said:
Hi, i'll be upgrading to a 5D Mk. III soon and need to upgrade to some full frame lenses too.

I want to get quality stuff that will last me for quite a while (future proof if you will). I've worked with Zeiss ZE (Canon mount) primes before and simply love them. Awesome built quality, image quality, etc.

They were my first choice after trying them in person a few times, but know i'm also looking at the Rokinon Cine lenses as an option, very attractive because of the price, manual controls and de-clicked aperture.


Any opinions or pro and cons of one or the other? How their built quality and image quaity compared to the Zeiss?

Any comments are welcome
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If you ask a 1000 filmmakers you'll get a 1000 different answers. It depends a part on budget and on the look you are after. Zeiss lenses are consistant, well built and have a good reputation

For a romance the creamy sharpness of a cooke is very suitable. For a sci fi or western I might pick a Rokinon for the contrast and sharpness. etc

It also maters if you intend to try to rent. there is no one answer. it depends on how you shoot, what you're shooting and your budget. used properly most lenses can give an acceptable result better than 90% of the time.
 
Duke M. said:
If you ask a 1000 filmmakers you'll get a 1000 different answers. It depends a part on budget and on the look you are after. Zeiss lenses are consistant, well built and have a good reputation

For a romance the creamy sharpness of a cooke is very suitable. For a sci fi or western I might pick a Rokinon for the contrast and sharpness. etc

It also maters if you intend to try to rent. there is no one answer. it depends on how you shoot, what you're shooting and your budget. used properly most lenses can give an acceptable result better than 90% of the time.
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Thanks, yeah i'm aware that there are many factors involved. I'm mainly looking for people that have worked with both and can give me any comments or opinions from their personal experience with them, since i've worked with the Zeiss lenses but have never had the chance to even hold a Rokinon.

I'm looking mainly for good built quality/construction, sharpness and consistent image quality between lenses in the set.
 
legrevedotcom said:
I have a set of the 24-70, the 70-200 II and the 100mm macro, so basically I'm covering a decent area, but these are all 2.8 and the 24-70 is not really great in the wide end.
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Duke M. said:
The Canon 24-70 drops in resolution quite a bit a F2.8. Actually it drops off quickly on both ends. Look at the chart here:
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I know that the Canon 24-70 II is getting lots of flack for its price and lack of IS but, man, it is a SWEET lens!!! It's amazingly sharp from 24 all the way to 70. Here is what lensrental had to say about it:

"This is short, sweet, and simple. The resolution absolutely, positively kicks butt and takes names. It is way better than the lens it replaces. It’s better at 70mm than the best Canon zoom I know of, the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II. It’s even better at 24mm than the sharpest 24mm prime we have, the Canon 24 TS-E. In the center, in the corners, it doesn’t care. We only had 5 copies to test, but they were all very similar with little copy-to-copy variation."
 
Many people have been waiting for a Rokinon 50mm Cine. Here is the latest thing they said:

"We are working on a 50mm. We hope to announce it towards the middle of 2013."

Middle of the year? Man, that's a long time since when they were first talking about it.
 
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