I am thinking about one of the two options to use with AF100. Rokinon Cine Kit with 3 lenses - 24MM, 35MM and 85MM and add 17MM when it becomes available in MFT size and of course 50MM which will be out next years sometime. The other option is to go with Voigtlander 17.5MM and 42.5MM lenses, I already have Voigtlander 25MM and add more lenses when they become available. I am aware that the Rokinon's already have declicked apertures and follow focus compatibility, but I will need to buy the MFT mounts for them except for 17MM. On the other hand, I will need to get Cine mod done on the Voigtlander's to make them more usable for filming but one good thing is that they all are MFT. Can you please share your thoughts which option would make more sense in terms of the feel and look of the final output and what are the pros and cons that I should consider?
Rokinon Cine Lens or Voigtlander
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David W. Jones
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Unless you are only ever going to shoot with M4/3 cameras, I would opt for lenses which cover a larger S35 or full frame sensor. But that's just my thoughts.
MichaelTiemann
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There's a large world beyond MFT (or m43 as I used to spell it): APC-C (Canon Rebels, for example), APC-H (older EOS 1 digital cameras), S35 (Canon Cinema 100, 300, and 500, not to mention SONY F5 and F55, RED Scarlet), Red EPIC and Dragon, and, of course, full-frame 35mm (such as Canon 5D and 6D).
There's also a world smaller than MFT, particularly Blackmagic Cinema Camera (BMCC) and the BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera.
If you are new to film-making, you should rent a few different kits to get a feel for just how "heavy" they are. S35 is a very well-supported pro format, but the price you pay--on average--is much larger lenses for a given field of view and aperture. APC-C was initially developed many years ago because building sensors was too expensive to make digital cameras for the masses. However, the 1.6x crop factor meant that a 17-55mm f/2.8 lens could do the work of a much heavier, much more expensive 24-70mm f/2.8 lens. The MFT format takes this a step further with a 2x crop factor: a 12-40mm f2.8 lens is again smaller, lighter, still less expensive than a 24-70mm, and it has a slightly longer reach (24-80mm equivalent). When you build a system with 4-5 lenses, these small differences really add up.
There is no question that S35 has a lot more sexy lenses and a lot more sexy sensors than MFT. But are you really committed to spending $5,000-$80,000 per lens, or are you looking to put together a fun kit for $10,000 all in? I'm planning to move to an S35 world, but I plan to have my MFT system for B-roll for quite some time.
There's also a world smaller than MFT, particularly Blackmagic Cinema Camera (BMCC) and the BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera.
If you are new to film-making, you should rent a few different kits to get a feel for just how "heavy" they are. S35 is a very well-supported pro format, but the price you pay--on average--is much larger lenses for a given field of view and aperture. APC-C was initially developed many years ago because building sensors was too expensive to make digital cameras for the masses. However, the 1.6x crop factor meant that a 17-55mm f/2.8 lens could do the work of a much heavier, much more expensive 24-70mm f/2.8 lens. The MFT format takes this a step further with a 2x crop factor: a 12-40mm f2.8 lens is again smaller, lighter, still less expensive than a 24-70mm, and it has a slightly longer reach (24-80mm equivalent). When you build a system with 4-5 lenses, these small differences really add up.
There is no question that S35 has a lot more sexy lenses and a lot more sexy sensors than MFT. But are you really committed to spending $5,000-$80,000 per lens, or are you looking to put together a fun kit for $10,000 all in? I'm planning to move to an S35 world, but I plan to have my MFT system for B-roll for quite some time.
hscully
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I agree with this strategy. I'm not purchasing any new m4/3 lenses. I'm going to stick to the modded 35mm lenses at this point. From what I hear the Rokinons are great. The ones I have are beautiful. However I will be holding onto my m 4/3 wide lenses. I have the 25mm Voightlander and will probably keep that for my GH2. It's a beautiful lens but my new investments are going to be 35mm lenses. There's no problem working with 35 mm lenses on m4/3 where the converse is not true. Just makes sense.
Simply Cinema
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Please let us know how the 16mm is. Having the 14mm, I'm considering whether or not to get the 16 since it's not going to be much different. The main draw is the faster speed of the 16.