Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

David Jimerson said:
I dunno. It just bugged me ever since I was a kid. Why fly a snowspeeder around and then hop out to get into your X-Wing, when you could just take some shots from the X-Wing, hold them off for a little while, then take off?

(And why does a society which doesn't use the Roman alphabet name its ships after it, because they look like the letters? Probably for the same reason they use Arabic numerals! But that's a discussion for another day.)
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I agree, :)

And there are plenty of things I noticed as a kid and youth - X-wings have jet turbine sounds and air intakes. Yeah that works great in space. The AT-ATs while so scary and cool when you are a kid seeing them approaching like monsters...who in their right mind would make a high center of gravity walking thing to traverse terrain when a rolling/track vehicle would be much, much better? :huh:

About the ship names utilizing alphabet letters as names... Didn't an outside company (Incom) produce the ships (at least the X-wing). The rebels merely bought/acquired the ships. So the society from which the Incom company was founded could be from somewhere else and thus use the Roman alphabet even though some of the end user customers may not. It's a galactic market, right?

But we all know the names X,Y,A wing etc were due to the shape of the ships resembling the letters. They knew the kids would be paying attention to all the vehicles and the huge merchandising that would result from the films.

But I find it interesting that they went to all the effort to come up with all the "nerdy" background info such as the vehicle manufacturers, specs, cultural attributes, languages and all the other stuff to create the whole Star Wars "universe" that serious fans would get into.
May be one factor that has aided the longevity of it all
 
Actually, the only one who saw the potential in the merchandizing was Lucas himself, who eschewed his director's salary for the merchandizing rights, which the studio was happy to let him have. There was no plan for it. Star Wars was released in May 1977, and there weren't any toys released for Christmas that year. The first merchandise wasn't on the shelves until spring 1978, almost a year later, and it trickled out. And the first stuff was not very good.

Merchandizing really wasn't that much of a thing then. It was Star Wars which made it into something huge.

The "nerdy background stuff" was all Expanded Universe and fan-generated. It wasn't developed by Team Lucas.
 
Yeah I know Lucas was the one who saw potential in merchandising and the studio seemed clueless to the forthcoming goldmine. Don't you know they were later like - doh! Money is in the merchandise!
Which is apparantly why Lucas did not allow Space Balls to sell merchandise, yet they made humor about it in the film flaunting lots of items which never came to be.

And I know that the really "nerdy background stuff" came later as fans went overboard, but what I meant was there was some planning and thought on the part of the Lucas team when coming up with the vehicles etc. Like the insignias and choice of languages...
I had a model X-wing back around 1980 and the instructions listed it as the Incom X-WING fighter and remember thinking it was neat how they had come up with all that.
When you create a world for a movie the background stuff helps make it more real in a way, and interesting for those who care about that sort of stuff :)
 
it had a promising vibe at start, with all the "real world" SW universe and all.
but as it developed, after half an hour or so,
something went missing and it mostly was a "meh" movie with forgettable characters.
also, what's with the same plot every time?? i mean, after this story continues to the first SW,
they have the SAME plot with the death star?
stupid.
 
I loved it. So much was so good.

I loved the ending. I was freaking out toward the end.

I loved Vader's appearance, I thought it was just enough.

I honestly didn't notice Tarkin was CG until I saw an HD version of the movie (cinema screens are not so good in Jordan, they really aren't, the whole movie was much darker and people watching with me were criticizing the DP and I knew it was the screen, the HD version at home was gorgeous).

My problem is with some of the actors. I didn't mind Jyn. At all. I thought Erso and Krennic were fantastic. Saw was my favorite. I don't know where he pulled that performance from, it was over the top but man it worked for me.

I can't stand Cassian and Bodhi. I can't take them seriously in that movie at all. As far as the whole Bor Gullet thing is concerned, you have this slimy polygraph that turns you insane, I was hoping that they had to drag this guy around being completely bonkers, singing and screaming and laughing as Jedha was going under, but no, he wakes up too easily. It would've been great and utterly nerve-wracking if he was a liability they needed the whole time. He didn't convince me.

Cassian... goodness, maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm getting older. That kid has no place in an army, and an intelligence officer no less. He doesn't really do anything in my book. He's got no control over any situation. He doesn't look the part, and I don't think he can act too well. The cynic in me calls those two Salsa and Startup, which is a bit cruel, but I can't see Diego Luna playing someone hard. And Chirrut's line, 'you carry your prison wherever you go', meant abbsolutely nothing to me. That doesn't look like anybobdy conflicted, and we don't even know what he's conflicted about. I really thought those two were a huge mistake the more I watch that film over and over.

K was awesome. I was worried a tiny bit, ubt he was fantastic.

This could've been a really great war movie. Maybe they fight after Jyn finds out what Cassian was up to the whole time, and they split up and race against each other toward the final goal. But it gets resolved way too easily. Bor Gullet was wasted, and could've had an awesome effect on that pilot. We see no flying skills from these two. It could've been a really great war movie, but you can't cast these guys and sell me that they're soldiers. I just didn't buy it, and I buy it less each time I watch it.

It's up there next to Empire for me. It's a killer star wars film, but doesn't cut it as a war flick, and it hurt to see it compared to Dirty Dozen.

This was the same problem I had with TFA, which I really really liked, except for when Kylo took off his mask, and that blogger for a pilot they hired that let Finn keep the jacket, cause it looked 'epic' on him.

Please stop hiring the young 'uns to play hardened soldiers.

Apologies for my cynicism, but it would be nice to feel some pain through these guys.
 
I really enjoyed it. One of my favorite SW films. I wasn't bothered by Cassian, I liked his character!

First viewing I didn't know Tarkin was CG. Watching at home on Blu Ray it is easier to distinguish, he does look rather wooden /CG in performance. Seeing it now I wish they would have opted to keep the CG use subtler (sure, use it and show him, but don't be so proud of it - just do enough for us to go "wow! it's him!" and then obscure the use of CG to keep it minimal and more believable. Admire the effort but it will likely stick out like a sore thumb especially in 15 years.
 
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