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StevePalisades

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I'm relatively new to HD shooting. I shot with a DVX for years and years and had my workflow very tight. I use Sony Vegas Pro and am just beginning to explore HD codecs and such.

Since I don't have the capacity yet to burn to Blu-Ray, my basic question is this: using Sony Vegas, what is the best way to render and author DVDs using T2i footage? Obviously there is going to be major quality drop, but is there a particular codec that I should be using to maximize the quality while still allowing for a DVD-burnable file? I get beautiful renders using 1080p codecs (like AVC and MOV), but my tests rendering the footage using MPEG-2 compression haven't been very successful. Unfortunately, my knowledge in this area isn't very comprehensive, but I need to learn!

Thanks for any help.
 
There are about 20 pages on this in the Sony forum and over at DV info, best practice (for free) seems to be render out to AVI lossless, pull into Virtual Dub, resize there with Lanczos3, render out and reimport to Vegas and render to Mpeg2. Sort of a pain but a considerable improvement over your method.
 
royfel said:
There are about 20 pages on this in the Sony forum and over at DV info, best practice (for free) seems to be render out to AVI lossless, pull into Virtual Dub, resize there with Lanczos3, render out and reimport to Vegas and render to Mpeg2. Sort of a pain but a considerable improvement over your method.
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Whoa- that's the first I've heard of this! Why resize in virtual dub? Vegas has excellent frame resizing in my experience.
What exactly is the problem with rendering directly to mpeg2, Steve?

And what software package are you using to author the DVD? DVD Architect, Adobe Encore, etc?

Just curious, royfel might be right, but I've never encountered a problem before- maybe its because usually when I'm rendering something to DVD, I'm working in standard definition workspaces to begin with. What kind of problems are you encountering, I'm just curious?
 
The thing is, Vegas has always had a better resizing algorithm than Premiere and Final Cut, IIRC. I've heard of these guides, but never about using it with Vegas.

There's some guy in the comments there that explains how he did this with Vegas as well, but he does not say it came out better than just rendering straight to NTSC DVD from the timeline. He just seems to assume this method is better.

Curious as to why a freeware app like Virtual Dub would be able to do something that Vegas can't do?
 
<Curious as to why a freeware app like Virtual Dub would be able to do something that Vegas can't do?> Because it uses Main Concept.
In my experence artifacts show up more often when downsizing in Vegas, I love the program, but it relies on Mainconcept for downsizing, with virtual Dub I am using Lanczos3 in a avi -Lagarith container that does not show artifacting. Here is a long discussion : http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/what-happens-vegas/492494-hd-sd-dvd-v-dub-versus-tmpgenc.html
and if I did this a lot I would buy the tmpgenc product.
Bottom line: I tried a fairly complex high detail 1080/ 24p direct thru Vegas to Mpeg2 then downsized first in virtual dub and the results, by a landslide, tilted in the virtual dub favor. (and it's free)
 
Thanks for the replies!

I will try going through VirtualDub. My main problem was artifacty rendering even at the highest MPEG-2 setting that Vegas has to offer, so that article definitely was very informative.
 
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