Re: Windows Media Player - Color Interpretation // Canon ALL-I vs XAVC-S

[ectobuilder]

Re: Windows Media Player - Color Interpretation // Canon ALL-I vs XAVC-S

For some reason, Windows Media Player can interpret XAVC-S colors correctly but adds a warmer and more contrasty tone to Canon ALL-I footage?

Conversely in my Premere Pro CS5.5.2 it interprets XAVC-S footage correctly (in terms of color) but plays Canon ALL-I in a more flat look.

I tried VLC Player for the heck of it and it matched the color interpretation of CS5.5.2.

What is going on?

Screenshot of ALL-I footage on WME, CS5.5.2 and VLC:

 

[DPStewart]

Windows Media Player was made by witches, and P.P. CS5.5 was possessed by Satan's little brother.

AVCHD has always been a complicated codec on the decode side. I'm actually surprised that CS5.5 handles any XAVC footage correctly at all.

Perhaps someone here can speak directly to the Canon side of it.

 

[Ebrahim Saadawi]

Windows media player NEVER showed any of my footage correctly. It does all sorts of things even up to noise reduction to h.264 mp4 files (a very effective NR too strangely!). Changes contrast hugely, saturation, digital sharpening level, and colour temperatures. Based on how it reacts differently to different footage I would assume it was actually designed to enhance the image for the regular viewer, like a new Samsung television set. Never trust it.

Only trust your NLE (when set at correct frame size/rate/colordepth/etc), that's where you see the actual footage.

The one player that I found shows all footage from all formats 100% accurately and fluidly is MPC-H. Best player for windows hands down for simplicity, codec support, speed and accuracy.

https://mpc-hc.org/

 

[DPStewart]

Windows media player NEVER showed any of my footage correctly. It does all sorts of things even up to noise reduction to h.264 mp4 files (a very effective NR too strangely!). Changes contrast hugely, saturation, digital sharpening level, and colour temperatures. Based on how it reacts differently to different footage I would assume it was actually designed to enhance the image for the regular viewer, like a new Samsung television set. Never trust it.

Only trust your NLE (when set at correct frame size/rate/colordepth/etc), that's where you see the actual footage.

The one player that I found shows all footage from all formats 100% accurately and fluidly is MPC-H. Best player for windows hands down for simplicity, codec support, speed and accuracy.

https://mpc-hc.org/

THANKS for this Ebrahim!

 

[ectobuilder]

Windows media player NEVER showed any of my footage correctly. It does all sorts of things even up to noise reduction to h.264 mp4 files (a very effective NR too strangely!). Changes contrast hugely, saturation, digital sharpening level, and colour temperatures. Based on how it reacts differently to different footage I would assume it was actually designed to enhance the image for the regular viewer, like a new Samsung television set. Never trust it.

Only trust your NLE (when set at correct frame size/rate/colordepth/etc), that's where you see the actual footage.

The one player that I found shows all footage from all formats 100% accurately and fluidly is MPC-H. Best player for windows hands down for simplicity, codec support, speed and accuracy.

https://mpc-hc.org/

What is a good rule to follow if the client is using WME to watch the final edit?

 

[DPStewart]

What is a good rule to follow if the client is using WME to watch the final edit?

Don't let them.
Or tell them in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that their player is CHANGING how their nifty new video looks. And changing it for the WORSE. Seriously, TELL THEM.
Then tell them to go download this FREE MPC-H video player.