Questions about Redrock gear for 7D

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Jean Dantes

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Hey guys, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna with this:

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.433/.f

However, I was wondering, do I need this?:

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.821/.f?sc=2&category=2700

Or would the 7D attach to the shoulder rig without the baseplate?


Also, does anyone know if this would be enough to counter balance a 7D with Sigma 30mm f1.4 lens?:

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.1045/.f?sc=2&category=2700

Really need your help on this guys! :)

Thanks in advance to any replies!! :)
 
Jean,

I'm looking at my RR Shoulder Mount (for sale in the marketplace, by the way), and I think you will certainly want that DSLR baseplate. It'll make life much easier, from what I can see.

As for the counterbalance, my amigo Caffesse has that lens, and I think the weight should balance quite well with the 7D and Sigma 30mm. But that's just an observation on my part, your mileage may vary.

--SM
 
Thanks for the reply SM!! :)

This is gonna sound like a stupid question, but what exactly does the baseplate do?
 
this is exactly what you should get Redrock Souldermount with 18" rods, DSLR Baseplate, and shouldermount offset... this setup will be perfect I know becuase it is the one I use daily
 
Currently I have the eyespy deluxe and am using it with my 5d and 7d. Great product but The only issue I have found with my 7d is that the dslr baseplate comes with a little screw that gives two screw in points for the 5d so that the camera is always perfectly straight and that screw hole does not exist on the 7d - not a major issue you just have to be more precise while mounting the 7d if you plan to attach a follow focus.

Yesterday I used the Genus advanced bars (not their yet to be released dslr version) and loved it for handheld with my Marshall monitor. The camera mount in the genus bars has a hollow area between camera munt and baseplate mount which makes for a great place to put your hand in order to cradle the camera. Obviously my redrock rig allows me to mount longer lenses and use my hoodloupe, but if you have a monitor something smaller than the redrock like the genus bars may be perfect for you.

Yesterday I had my 7d on th genus bars with a genus wide mattebox and a tamron 17-50 with a redrock follow focus v2. The result was a compact rig that could fly on and off my tripod. The Dp I was working with said he could shoot the whole movie on that setup. I only bring this up because we had the eyespy on standby and it was barely used.
 
Anyone else find those counterweights to be a bit overpriced? I mean they are just tiny metal weights. I want to buy one or two, but could probably make one just as good for about $20-25.

For those who own them, what are your thoughts on them?
 
ryansheffer said:
Currently I have the eyespy deluxe and am using it with my 5d and 7d. Great product but The only issue I have found with my 7d is that the dslr baseplate comes with a little screw that gives two screw in points for the 5d so that the camera is always perfectly straight and that screw hole does not exist on the 7d - not a major issue you just have to be more precise while mounting the 7d if you plan to attach a follow focus.

Yesterday I used the Genus advanced bars (not their yet to be released dslr version) and loved it for handheld with my Marshall monitor. The camera mount in the genus bars has a hollow area between camera munt and baseplate mount which makes for a great place to put your hand in order to cradle the camera. Obviously my redrock rig allows me to mount longer lenses and use my hoodloupe, but if you have a monitor something smaller than the redrock like the genus bars may be perfect for you.

Yesterday I had my 7d on th genus bars with a genus wide mattebox and a tamron 17-50 with a redrock follow focus v2. The result was a compact rig that could fly on and off my tripod. The Dp I was working with said he could shoot the whole movie on that setup. I only bring this up because we had the eyespy on standby and it was barely used.
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could you post a few pics of your rig for us?
 
I've got the rrm shoulder mount deluxe bundle that I use on my hvx setup. I'm still waiting on my 7D to ship so last week I had to rent a 5D to use for a job. If money is tight you can just use the second rod clamp to attach the camera, which is what I did since I haven't got all my dslr stuff yet. The dslr baseplate is useful because you don't have to use an allen key to disengage the camera from the baseplate and also because the baseplate itself can quick release from the rods. Perry is right about needing that offset. Since i didn't have it I was always kinda looking to the side, which is a huge pain and hurts your eyes after a while.

If you have the shoulder mount kit with rods, the baseplate and the offset you've essentially made your self a 2 handed version of the eye-spy standard kit.
 
Anyone used the Captain Stubling?

Amongst other things I shoot a lot of handheld footage and was thinking of a Zacuto tactical shooter, but the Stubling looks interesting and comes with the FFocus too. Little concerned it won't be stable enough but it's intriguing.

Am also thinking about hooking it up to a Z-Finder - I like how you can take the z-finder off easily, so depending on the handheld situation one can snap it on or off as needed.
 
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vcfilms said:
Anyone else find those counterweights to be a bit overpriced? I mean they are just tiny metal weights. I want to buy one or two, but could probably make one just as good for about $20-25.

For those who own them, what are your thoughts on them?
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I would also like to hear from someone who used these. Worth it? Can't really justify spending $130 on weights at the moment.
 
Jean Dantes said:
Also, again, I know this is gonna sound like a stupid question, but what exactly does the baseplate do?
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It attaches to your 7D via the tripod mount at the bottom of the camera so that the whole thing can be mounted on to the rails. It's not the only way (or the most versatile way, for that matter) to attach a camera to rails but it is pretty neat looking, IMO. Purpose built parts look more professional when you're out on the job as opposed to re-purposed bits.

Personally, I like a more universal solution that I can attach a tripod quick release plate to. That way, I can take the camera on and off and mount it into another rig quickly.
 
711 said:
I would also like to hear from someone who used these. Worth it? Can't really justify spending $130 on weights at the moment.
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Really though, how much of a recommendation do you need for $130 weights? The pluses of going with these would be 1) they look good. 2) they're made to fit with your kit, so you don't have to bother ghetto-rigging up something that might detract from your professionalism on a paying job. On the other hand, if you already have something like a battery pack or some other kind of gear you could securely mount onto a universal plate in the same spot then it would work just about the same.
 
I know with my XHA1s in the front rear weighting is very necessary. But I prob wont use too much weight with the 7D but remember the heavier the rig the more stable it will be it is important to weight your shoulder rig so that you can take your hand off of your grips and it should stay stable of slowly fall backwards( camera raise up)...
 
meauounji said:
if you already have something like a battery pack or some other kind of gear you could securely mount onto a universal plate in the same spot then it would work just about the same.
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I had tried looking around, but where can we find 15mm rod baseplate type pieces that don't break the bank?

Edit: Also, I was looking for a new piece to attach my shoulder mount to my tripod. The tripod mount on the shoulder piece doesn't balance my rig too well.
 
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Thanks for the replies :)

So, I can still use the Redrock shoulder rig above without the baseplate? I just dunno if I can justify $195 on a baseplate right now...

Do you guys think that I'll need a "microBalance counterbalance add-on weight" (http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.472981/it.A/id.900/.f?sc=2&category=2700), or would the "microBalance counterweight Starter Kit" (http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl;j...b3z0?c=472981&it=A&id=1045&sc=2&category=2700) be enough to balance a 7D + Sigma 30mm F1.4?

Also Perry, what did you mean by "shouldermount offset" ?
 
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