Questions about FS100/700 files in Premier Pro

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Jim Ritscher

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(Sorry if portions of this have been asked before). Now I understand that when working with FS100/700 files in Premier Pro (CS6 in my case), you create a new folder on the computer and drag the two folders AVF_INFO and PRIVATE into it. And this seems to work fine. My questions are:

1. Is Premiere Pro actively using both of these folders, and if so how (if you happen to know)?
2. Can you rename the clip files, or will this screw up relationships?
3. If you can't rename files, is there an alternative way of handling this?
4. Is there a problem with deleting unwanted clips?

Thanks for any help.
 
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I only copy the mts-files and that is all. You don't need the rest with PP. You can rename as you like but do it before you import. You can delete as you like but since the files are rather small I would keep them and sort as you like in PP.
 
Thank you for your response. How do you (or anyone else) handle the "files over 2 gig" combining problem (long clips that need to be combined)? Does Premier handle this?
 
In the "Effects" panel, use the "Media Browser" tab to find your footage and drag and drop from there to your resources/bin panel. I have found this to resolve my issues with sound not connecting to the video when I drag and drop from Windows Explorer.
 
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Jim Ritscher said:
Thank you for your response. How do you (or anyone else) handle the "files over 2 gig" combining problem (long clips that need to be combined)? Does Premier handle this?
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In Premiere, Import the PRIVATE folder and it will handle spanned clips correctly (as well as timecode (when present) IIRC).
 
jcs said:
In Premiere, Import the PRIVATE folder and it will handle spanned clips correctly (as well as timecode (when present) IIRC).
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I find that this is not always the case.

With long clips I often encounter a weird phenomena:
It does connect the spanned clips into one clip, but ends up making a copy of this combined clip for each spanned clip.

For example, clip01 clip02 and clip03 (don't remember the exact filenames the fs100 uses) are spanned clips, shot as one take.
Premier will correctly combine these 3 clips into one clip, calling it clip01.
THEN it will create (in the project window, none of the files on the harddrive are affected) This same file as clip02 and clip03.
I end up with 3 of the same clips, each one the combined length of all 3.

It's not a huge problem, I just delete the duplicates in the project window, but it is a hassle.

Can anyone explain this?
 
@Osslund: if you copy just the .mts files, you will get audio problems with spanned clips. I've seen this on an FS100, and tested it recently on an FS700 -- it definitely happens. Copy the whole PRIVATE folder.

zwarte_kat, if you use the media browser in AVCHD mode to import the clips (after copying the PRIVATE folder to your hard drive), I think it solves the duplicated clips issue. Otherwise, look for the copy that has the "Shot Date" meta-data and ignore the others. (I think it also depends which version of PP you use.)

This may help:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?303136-NEX-Camera-Workflow
 
zwarte_kat said:
With long clips I often encounter a weird phenomena:
It does connect the spanned clips into one clip, but ends up making a copy of this combined clip for each spanned clip.
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I read on the Adobe forum somewhere: "Only copy one of the split files or it will end up making duplicates."
 
tangentially, who is using premier on a mac platform?

and is anyone editing premiere on a rigged out imac 27" i7?

thanks in advance for any info.

be well.

rob
smalltalk productions/nyc
 
zwarte_kat said:
I find that this is not always the case.

With long clips I often encounter a weird phenomena:
It does connect the spanned clips into one clip, but ends up making a copy of this combined clip for each spanned clip.

For example, clip01 clip02 and clip03 (don't remember the exact filenames the fs100 uses) are spanned clips, shot as one take.
Premier will correctly combine these 3 clips into one clip, calling it clip01.
THEN it will create (in the project window, none of the files on the harddrive are affected) This same file as clip02 and clip03.
I end up with 3 of the same clips, each one the combined length of all 3.

It's not a huge problem, I just delete the duplicates in the project window, but it is a hassle.

Can anyone explain this?
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Yes, when you import the entire folder in PP, it properly combines multiple files that represent one long (bigger than 2GB) clip. But it still lists all the files separately even though each file dragged onto a timeline will show up as the entire combined clip. This was confusing enough that a co-worker of mine once dragged 3 files from a 1-clip event onto the timeline not realizing he just put the entire clip there 3 times. Of course the tip off should have been the fact that the exported video was 3 times the length of the original event, but he was never the brightest bulb. Thankfully I noticed the issue when entering the program into our automated playback server for broadcast.
 
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