Quality

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Jfilm19

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Hello everyone,
I recently posted a bulliten with regards to quality once placed in the internet. However, I have done my own research and searched up dvx 100b quality on
sites suchs vimeo and youtube, and I have noticed that their quality looks impressive; yet, when i look at my quality, I feel like im being cheated. For instances,
My quality looks like this http://vimeo.com/1243503
on they other hand the same camera looks like this http://vimeo.com/1243503

ive tried everything switching from animation to nstc
reducing ther frame sizes
deinterlacing
recompress and unrecompress
adobe encoder to mpeg2
out put top h24
output to jphoto

and i just cant get it right

any suggestions?
 
It all depends on what your are editing in and what frame rates your are using.

Post your settings and we will be able to help you.
 
thank you so much Austin v

im shooting 24p
i edit with adobe premire cs3
ntsc
timeline is 24p

ive even tried switching the kbp to like 1,000 per second and nothing

but those are my settings if that is what will help
 
ok, well I shoot in 24pa and edit in premiere cs3 aswell. I edit in the 24p timeline.

For putting stuff onto vimeo I do this:

File - export - adobe media encoder this opens up a new window.

File Format is H.264

in the video tab I set the frame rate to 23.967 (24p)

Field order - none

Pixel Aspect Ratio - 16:9 (I shoot squeeze) this all depends on your settings.

Profile - Main

Level - 3.1

Bitrate Encoding - 1 pass

Target Bitrate - 3

Max " " - 6

Thats it, I usually do this because it keeps the files smaller for internet use.

Try that out!
 
Thank you so much Austin V i will try your settings, and I will post the outcome later on this week.

Thank you once again
Jeff M
 
Basically repeating what was said above but H.264 is the way to go. Set it up for multiple passes and try to push that data rate as high as you can go without making it impossible for people to view.

H.264 is a very intense codec, meaning it will take some time to encode, but it sure is worth it when you see the results. From my experience, it's twice as space efficient as plain mpeg 4 (and that might be an understatement) and it looks wonderful when encoded correctly.

Good luck
 
BMFM, I will also take your advice into consideration. I followed Austin V's encoding settings and the outcome was by far the most impressive ive seen. I re-exported a small teaser i did for a small project im doing this summer. Originally, I just compressed the file with h.264; however, I did not change any of bitrate ect and the video was about 89 mb; whereas, using Austin V's setting i the file was much smaller (11 mb s) although the video sample is 34 seconds i belive if you look hard enough you can see a difference. Using Austin V's settings has brought me closer to what im looking for from my dvx

Sample 1(BASIC SETTINGS) http://vimeo.com/1253364
Sample 2(Austin V settings)http://vimeo.com/1284143

check out the difference
 
Sample 2 doesn't seem to fit the frame in Vimeo, turn up the resolution.

88 mb's or even 11 megs sounds like way too much for just 30 seconds of compressed footage. Post your encode settings...
 
for the second i was just trying to see the difference between 16:9 and 4:3 and it like cuts the sides im using the same thing as Austin v. With regards to the resolution how do i change that ?
 
jfilm, you mentioned you shoot in 24p, do you mean 24p standard or 24p advanced? because if your shooting standard 24p edit in a 29.97 timeline, but if its 24p advanced edit in a 24 timeline. you probably already know this, but if not, its probably part of the problem. :)
 
I meant 24p standard(sorry about that), and i edit with adobe premire CS3 before staring any project it gives me and anyone who uses the program to edit in a 24p or 24p advance timeline. I dont understand why i would use 29.97 to edit 24p standard. Actually, i once did a small edit shooting in 30p (29.97) on a 24p timeline and i had a horrible time working with the project. However, ill try it out to see if it gives me better results thanks for the advice
 
In Premiere Pro CS2 and later, it doesn't matter which pulldown you shot; you can still edit in a 24p timeline with no problem -- and you should.

FCP makes it a pain the butt to edit 24p (standard) in a 24p timeline, but you're not using FCP, so don't worry about it.

That said, shoot 24pA; it'll give your processor a little bit of a break. But don't worry about it with the stuff you've already shot -- just edit in 24p.

30p does not convert well to 24p, so that's why you had the problem there.
 
I had a huge frame rate problem when I was shooting 24p, because everyone here told me to edit in a 24p time line. You only edit in a 24p timeline if you are shooting 24p advanced. This issue was driving me crazy, with premiere for me it goes 24pa and 24p timeline. or 24p and 30 frame timline.
 
renegadewill said:
I had a huge frame rate problem when I was shooting 24p, because everyone here told me to edit in a 24p time line. You only edit in a 24p timeline if you are shooting 24p advanced. This issue was driving me crazy, with premiere for me it goes 24pa and 24p timeline. or 24p and 30 frame timline.
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As I said above, with Premiere Pro 2.0 or later, it doesn't matter which you shoot, you can still (and should) edit in 24p. This is also true of Vegas and Edius.

You wouldn't want to try it with any version of Premiere BEFORE 2.0, especially not 1.5, but Adobe got it down with CS2.
 
i edit just fine with a 24p timeline i did the reverse filmed 30p and edit with a 24p timeline and had a horrible outcome
 
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