Pxw-fs7
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JackCarter
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Nice one, very interesting camera, I'm sure it's going to be very popular. I would rather have the F5 though, but that's me.
Carlo Zanella
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Internally. ..as far as recording modes/codecs/gammas it sounds a lot like the F5...plus 4K of course (QUD for now and Cinema 4K later....)
What's going to be next today???? F5/55 updates...
Carlo Zanella
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Of course...I have an F5...and I LOVE it! ... but would you pay now $16,500 for it if they don't put 4K on it?...with the FS7 out?
...mmmmmm...
...mmmmmm...
JackCarter
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FS7 .... No HDCAM SR, no proper EVF, UHD instaed of DCI, NEX mount, which is the biggest turn off for me. For the F5, I don't need XAVC 4K, it has an amazing codec called HDCAM SR. But you know XAVC 4K is going to be announced officially today for the F5, as is the ProRes pricing.
FS7 is a nice camera, it's going to do very well I think. I would rather have a F5/55 series, but that's from coming from a F3 background.
FS7 is a nice camera, it's going to do very well I think. I would rather have a F5/55 series, but that's from coming from a F3 background.
Carlo Zanella
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Totally agree with you. I am glad I bought my F5....just waiting for internal 4K XAVC...Today may be a great day...I HOPE...
JackCarter
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And I'm going to order the F5 today :smile:
It will be a good day, as you will see. The FS700 users will be upset today though.
It will be a good day, as you will see. The FS700 users will be upset today though.
Carlo Zanella
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Glad you are so optimistic....Going to bed now (here in LA is 1.20am)...Hope to wake up in a few hours with a good surprise....;-)
Congratulations for your purchase, you are going to LOVE it. It's an amazing expressive tool in the right hands....
Congratulations for your purchase, you are going to LOVE it. It's an amazing expressive tool in the right hands....
Why pay double for the same thing? Then you have to pay even more for 4K internally and prores. This camera does everything the F5 does unless I'm missing something.
JackCarter
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FS7 .... No HDCAM SR, no proper EVF, UHD instead of DCI, NEX mount, which is the biggest turn off for me. No way of upgrading the camera, like the F5 to a F55. Just some quick thoughts, I'm sure they will be a lot more differences when I know more about this new FS7.
DCI 4K is coming in January. Why is HDCAM SR so important when you have Prores and many other formats? What is the problem with NEX mount?
FrameFarmMedia
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Mitch Gross posted on twitter that the Fs7 outputs the same 4K signal as FS700 so the O7Q will be a great option if the internal xavc isn't for you. PL-E mount adapters aren't difficult if you want to go PL. I personally like the options E mount provides to scale up or down as the lens budgets require.
JackCarter
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HDCAM SR is a proven codec that has shot feature films like Star Wars. It's in 444 colour space, unlike 422 XAVC. ProRes is coming out for the F5 in December. NEX mount is horrid, it feels brittle and all the Sony NEX lenses I've used are poor. All my glass is in PL mount, so another reason the F5 is a winner with me. As Dennis pointed out to me, the F5/55 has 16bit RAW, this FS7 has 12bit only. I would be happy with either, but the F5 is more for my tastes.
You can get PL adapters for E mount so the PL point is moot.
Good point with 12bit vs 16bit if that matters to you. Most people will use XAVC for 99% of things and 16bit RAW is overkill for most things.
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John Foundas
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From what I've seen the ergo of that grip initially looks great. However, the resting position looks awefull and will probably snap of after 3 months. Looks too flimsy
The E mount was never designed to support the weight of any PL cinema glass. Even with rod support the force shifts of focus pulling on cinema glass will test the tolerances of these E to PL adapters. Best thing is to stick with F5 or F55 for PL glass, and their stronger built in PL mount designs, which is why there will still be a need for these more expensive pro cameras.
Mitch Gross
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That's not really true. A properly supported mount adapter is rigidly locked in place via solid metal. Flex tolerances are extremely minimal at that point, perhaps a couple of microns with torque. Mind you, that's if it is a competent design.
"Properly supported" is the point of contention. You're never going to have solid lock on rods or rod plates because those distances always can vary so you have to rely on the strength and solidity of the mount itself to bear much of the weight and torque. A few microns can throw your back focus off especially on zooms. Especially when you're on a rushed production crew - and what production crew is not rushed - you never really have the time between various setups to make sure that support is at its optimum, and torque. bend and weight on the rods can make it worse. If you have to, sure you do it, like in all situations of needed compromise. If you can afford not to, or have a choice renting, put PL glass on proper PL mount.
Mitch Gross
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What do you mean those distances can vary? Proper height center to center from lightweight 15mm rods to the lens mount is 85mm. A correctly manufactured lens mount adapter comes with footing or other attachment point to connect to rods at that height. Deflection of rods at the front of a camera is minimal. I've been doing this for many years and I do know a bit about lens mounts, deflection and tolerances. If something is poorly built or designed it's one thing, but doing this correctly is fairly straightforward and there are a number of companies who get it right.