ProHD, how much longer until production models ship?

Rosestar

Rosestar

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When is the JVC ProHD camera gonna ship? Shouldn't we be seeing footage from tape by now? Just wondering.
 
No ship date has been announced, other than to say "July". On DVInfo someone just posted saying that an official JVC rep is now saying "August"...
 
Bummer, I wanted to try and get my hands on it for a test run, or at least see some footage. I have a project coming up in early September that I thought might be good for the JVC. That would be cutting it to close. Would have been cool to test drive it with OPM...
 
I'm trying to take advantage of JVC's incentive program (buy a 5100 and get $2000 off the HD100). I was told yesterday after registering the purchase that we're looking at LATE August.
 
Well, I'm fearing here... Some have the info on September, "but it could be earlier...", some are saying within a few weeks now (but they're saying that for a vast month now...)

Some sites even mention "end of may/begin of June", Damn do they need updating!
 
I think they are waiting to see what Canon will do!!

I don't have much faith in a company that keeps changing the date.

I think the camera should be made, announce and sent to the stores. Not all the hype, camera's hiding in clear bags, balsawood mock ups etc. It's what we are seeing with the HVX too. Then everyone bashes Canon for not having a HD camera and 7 years between the XL1 and the XL2. Panasonic got the hype going showed alittle wooden camera, then ran off to Asia and are trying to make it. JVC did about the same.

Why make everyone wait? I guess none of them, but Sony had anything ready and they are trying to keep people from buying the Z1. Which is a good idea.
 
My reseller told me that JVC is telling them September for HD100's.

Zim, regarding why the hype -- I answered that before in another thread. Keep in mind that these cameras are not marketed primarily to consumers. They're announced at the National Association of Broadcasters convention (not the national association of indie filmmakers, mind you) for broadcasters to see, budget for, and plan on. These are stations with multimillion dollar hardware budgets. They need to know what's coming, not just what's available today. They have to plan ahead, and allocate their funding. If someone just sprung a camera on them with no warning, they'd say "oh, well, thanks, but it'll be nine months before our next budget approval, so I can't do anything for you right now." Or whatever. Whereas with adequate notice, stations and broadcasters can plan and budget.

Canon, on the other hand, doesn't sell to stations or broadcasters. They sell to consumers and indie production companies. And so, yes, Canon will launch a camera with little to no notice, and they don't introduce cameras at N.A.B. They introduce them at shows like DV Expo East (which takes place in just a few weeks, doesn't it?) Sometimes they don't introduce them at shows at all, they just send out press releases, and the next month the camera's in the store.
 
Barry,

I dont really think these camcorders are destined to broadcast market...
I mean...yes and no...
A small proportion will be sold to broadcasters, but most units will be sold to small producers.

This is a big mistake. from july to september...
People will look elsewere...
I was seriously thinking about buying the HD100 for my summer productions, then the HVX200 in december, but now, i am seriously thinking about buying the SDX900 (or the SPX)...heavy, yes, but available !
or even buy the lightweight Sony Z1 and use DVFILM to convert to 24p, or even the XL2...because of its ability to focus at full telephoto wide open.

I'm really tired waiting for the "ultimate lightweight camcorder"...no real news...no footage...
 
We just received a glossy packet on the JVC ProHD line yesterday. Interesting note the 1/2" from 1/3" adapter ring available as an accessory.

This ostensibly opens an appreciable range of less expensive options to the two lenses mfg. specifically for the camera? Looks like a nice 720p system to me, I love the slightly larger form-factor. Doesn't seem like the deck supports 1080i HDV playback though?

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Barry I still think JVC and Panasonic were no where close to a release on the ProHD or the HVX,,,they just tried to slow down Sony sales. "Look what we got!!" Then, "well it will be the end of the year".

If FOX news or CNN really want a $5,000 camcorder I'm sure they don't have to plan it out 9 months in advance.

I can see a month or two after a announcement but 8 or nine months? And it really could be the next NAB before we see the HVX200.
 
Zim,

Barry is on target here, CNN, the BBC, Fox, buy this type of camera by the hundreds and that requires budgeting. In many cases other equipment , decks etc are also required if the format is different than one already in use. Many years ago, I saw a serious confrontation at NAB between someone from a TV group that had taken delivery of 6 cameras two weeks before and found the new model at NAB.

You are correct that a component of early announcement is to try to get buyers to wait instead of purchase the compeditors products, but it is a double edged sword. I suspect that many who would have purchased a DVX from Panasonic are waiting for the HVX.

Bill Turner
Schneider Optics
Century Division
 
Bill__Turner said:
Zim,

Barry is on target here, CNN, the BBC, Fox, buy this type of camera by the hundreds and that requires budgeting. In many cases other equipment , decks etc are also required if the format is different than one already in use. Many years ago, I saw a serious confrontation at NAB between someone from a TV group that had taken delivery of 6 cameras two weeks before and found the new model at NAB.

You are correct that a component of early announcement is to try to get buyers to wait instead of purchase the compeditors products, but it is a double edged sword. I suspect that many who would have purchased a DVX from Panasonic are waiting for the HVX.

Bill Turner
Schneider Optics
Century Division
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what kind of camera's are you talking about? ProHD? HVX? There isn't camera's like that yet. They might take some small cameras like the Sony PD-170 to some war zone, but how many do you see anywhere else?
 
It's the way the business works.

Sony introduced the FX1 at NAB 2004, and didn't ship it to stores until October 2004. Panasonic introduced the DVX at NAB 2002, and shipped it to stores in October 2002.
JVC introduced the HD100 at NAB 2005, and will ship it to stores sometime around September 2005.
 
Do they they reserve bugdet before even try those camcorders...

again, no footage yet...

...maybe i am just frustrated...
 
I think they have their reasons for the delay. Everyone is on target here, has Barry said they have to plan ahead and allocate their funding... with the other hand they keep people from buying Sony's Z1, one way or the other is just a market strategy.

I'm waiting for it and I won't buy another one for sure, I don't like handycams and unfortunately the only camera with better specifications is the HVX200... another prosumer model. Their camera is unique, they don't have much to lose with the delay.

Or maybe they are just improving it...
 
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