Problem powering AF100 with external Lanparte power pinch

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Let me preface this by saying that I am (supposedly) the only one reporting this problem among successful reports with the same setup, and the seller has been excellent trying to remedy this situation.

Also, I've tested the voltage for all components (including alternate units, cables & batteries) - it should perfectly acceptable. My AF100 is firmware v1.23 (the paid upgrade).

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For longer than I'd like to admit, I've been struggling trying to power my AF100 using a Lanparte power pinch and Gold Mount battery. :embarasse The power pinch is the one with the correct circuitry (not one of the cheaply made knock-offs that can cause problems). There is a 7.2v output (actually sending 8.26v) jack on the power pinch; this is supposed to be connected to the Panasonic DC cord via a 4-inch long adapter cable, which in turn connects normally to the battery slot on the AF100.

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The problem: when I connect the components from the external battery source and power-on the AF100, I get an almost-immediate error message that says "This Battery Cannot Be Used" followed by the camera powering itself off. :huh:

Some initial research shows that the Panasonic battery terminal has 4 connectors - 2 on the outside for +/- power, and 2 in the middle for communication from the power source.

So, the only thing I can come up with is that there is no "handshake" happening between the AF100 and battery that would normally be expected from the an official (or compatible) Panasonic battery (or A/C adapter). I imagine the appropriate "handshake" would have the AF100 "authorize" the power source. In my case, I don't think this is happening. :Drogar-Mad(DBG):

Help: What would it take to get this setup to work properly? Is there a way to tell the camera not to check for the "handshake?" Or to somehow send a "handshake" from my power source? :-KnockedOut(D

Thanks!!
 
I have the same power dock. Are you using the Panasonic AF-100 AC adapter?
The only time I get the warning is when I review footage but never while I'm recording. I don't have the paid firmware update so that might be the issue.
 
switch over + and - as this is what the problem is........... the problem u facing is the cord that connects your splitter and fake battery cord ! the plus and minus there is mixed in the wrong way.

to prove it - u can try to use few small nails or peaces of metal and try to connect splitter and fake battery cord with just these few metal peaces - u will see that the straight connecting working = what means the cord is the problem - hope u understood my english

the easiest way to try that procedure is if u own small hd, use the their battery cord (that connects monitor to small hd battery). 1 end of it will fit 7.2V end on splitter .... connect it, other end has hole (mother end) insert there metal nail (or metal paper clipper) and using 2nd nail touch the outside of the cord..... now do the same with the panasonic fake battery cord and connect the metal peaces to each other ..... u ll see the cam is working fine, with out any error messages! ....... but if u ll now change the + and - .... u will see that error message .....

now after u tried all that and was successful - open the cord that should connect splitter to pany fake battery cord ..... and change the + and - ...... should work

and of course the voltage its self has nothing to do with the problem! panasonic af100 can accept alot more then 7.2V

another way to work around it is to buy a more expansive Fake Battery card that has Dtap on 1 end - and just connect it directly to battery!
 
Erik Naso said:
I have the same power dock. Are you using the Panasonic AF-100 AC adapter?
The only time I get the warning is when I review footage but never while I'm recording. I don't have the paid firmware update so that might be the issue.
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Thanks! I am essentially using the same setup as you. http://eriknaso.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/AF-100-battery-adapter1-300x225.jpg

Not using the Panasonic A/C adapter, rather the DC Cord.


anatusa said:
switch over + and - as this is what the problem is........... the problem u facing is the cord that connects your splitter and fake battery cord ! the plus and minus there is mixed in the wrong way.

to prove it - u can try to use few small nails or peaces of metal and try to connect splitter and fake battery cord with just these few metal peaces - u will see that the straight connecting working = what means the cord is the problem - hope u understood my english

the easiest way to try that procedure is if u own small hd, use the their battery cord (that connects monitor to small hd battery). 1 end of it will fit 7.2V end on splitter .... connect it, other end has hole (mother end) insert there metal nail (or metal paper clipper) and using 2nd nail touch the outside of the cord..... now do the same with the panasonic fake battery cord and connect the metal peaces to each other ..... u ll see the cam is working fine, with out any error messages! ....... but if u ll now change the + and - .... u will see that error message .....

now after u tried all that and was successful - open the cord that should connect splitter to pany fake battery cord ..... and change the + and - ...... should work

and of course the voltage its self has nothing to do with the problem! panasonic af100 can accept alot more then 7.2V

another way to work around it is to buy a more expansive Fake Battery card that has Dtap on 1 end - and just connect it directly to battery!
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Hmm, that's an idea. The + and - reversed, yeah? Interesting. Will look into it - thanks!
 
The AF100 camera is looking at the voltage level coming in from the DC source when it is not powered by a battery. If that voltage is outside the range (8.26V is too high) it rejects its. When a battery is used, it talks to it digitally to make sure it is the right one. We offer a kit that is designed to power the camera in case you can not make yours to work.

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adolgin said:
The AF100 camera is looking at the voltage level coming in from the DC source when it is not powered by a battery. If that voltage is outside the range (8.26V is too high), it rejects it. When a battery is used, it talks to it digitally to make sure it is the right one. We offer a kit that is designed to power the camera in case you can not make yours to work.

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Much obliged! I think this might be the way to go...
 
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