pro tools vs soundtrack pro

HenryDee

HenryDee

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I couldn't find any topics on this and if its already been discussed my bad...but would a comparison between soundtrack pro and pro tools be fare ...or am i in completely different ball parks here. I'm just wondering If soundtrack pro can most definitely be used in lew of pro tools.
 
STP is intended for use as a sound track creation tool- i.e. sound effects, filters, etc. You could do a lot of things ProTools does with it. That said, you find ProTools in use in nearly any professional post-production house in Hollywood and at the heart of most soundtrack recordings. It's the standard. Also costly... If you are doing your own sound though, STP is up to the task, provided you learn to use it.

Noah
 
Pro Tools if you want to do your soundtrack from scratch, Sound Track Pro if you're more inclined for cut-and-paste.
Pro Tools shines for multitrack audio recording, STP for basic narrative work and looped tracks.
Coming from the Pro Tools world I found STP to be a pain in the butt at times but once I started attempting basic soundtrack work found it made a little more sense...... It's still a pain in the rear at times but it's simplicity has it's uses.
 
filming said:
I think soundtrack pro is more for movies and TV. Pro tools is producing beats.
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uhhh... no.



pro tools is light years better than stp in every way. no serious studio even considers stp.
it's not better for tv and film. it's not better for anything.


pro tools vs. soundtrack pro?

pro tools. no question.
 
I just was thinking about getting AE, when I remembered, there is MOTION sitting around on the HDD.
Same with STP, it´s already there if you have FCS, no need to buy another audio programm.

For every task of production, there (supposedly) is a "one to rule them all" tool.
Hardware wise, the difference can often be meassured.
But on the software side?
Who can say: oh this was definitely edited with Avid!
Or: this effect was done on a Flame!

Point is, if you´re already a pro tools "Pro" it makes a lot of sense to just keep working with PT.
If you´re just starting out, just give the tools a try, you already own.
(Exeption to this: you want to become an "all audio pro", then it´s probably best to just learn the industry standard...)
 
cheezweezl said:
uhhh... no.



pro tools is light years better than stp in every way. no serious studio even considers stp.
it's not better for tv and film. it's not better for anything.


pro tools vs. soundtrack pro?

pro tools. no question.
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That's absolutely correct if the question is hiring a professional place to do your work. You'll find ProTools in 99.9% of pro sound design and mix stages. It's not like picture editing where there is a good proliferation of FCP vs. Avid- just not the same.

But if the question is- what can I as an individual use? STP is capable of equaling the kind of things you can do in many- though not all ways.

Naoh
 
If you want to compose your own music further on down the track, Logic Studio is probably easier to learn than Pro Tools, and it comes with Soundtrack Pro as well, so it's fully integrated. You can use the EXS24 software sampler to play any intrument you like through a USB keyboard (about $150) and get AMAZING results.
 
dvxhutch said:
If you want to compose your own music further on down the track, Logic Studio is probably easier to learn than Pro Tools, and it comes with Soundtrack Pro as well, so it's fully integrated. You can use the EXS24 software sampler to play any intrument you like through a USB keyboard (about $150) and get AMAZING results.
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Different strokes for different folks I guess. I've got PT and Logic pro and Logic pro is the most illogically laid out program I've ever worked on IMO. I actually fired it up again tonight to give it yet another go and spent the better part of 2 hours cussing at my computer.
What I do like is the sampler and the native instruments. They do most definitely rock but trying to get anything done in Logic just p@##es me off.
As for integration between STP and Logic, how the heck do you send a STP multitrack file into Logic? STP doesn't export OMF and AAF didn't seem to work for me, at least in a way that made sense.
I'm sure it can be done, it just doesn't work as plain and simply as PT7 does...... But then it's probably just me......
 
NoahK said:
That's absolutely correct if the question is hiring a professional place to do your work. You'll find ProTools in 99.9% of pro sound design and mix stages. It's not like picture editing where there is a good proliferation of FCP vs. Avid- just not the same.

But if the question is- what can I as an individual use? STP is capable of equaling the kind of things you can do in many- though not all ways.

Naoh
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true that you can accomplish most basic things in stp and the quality will be as good as pro tools. the point is that the interface and workflow of pro tools is so much better.

to me it's like comparing after effects to motion. kinda the same but one is pro, the other is still working on it....
 
ddp - sorry, I don't think I've ever sent a STP multitrack file into Logic, I normally compose music in Logic and send it into STP, so I'm afraid I don't know. It's funny how different people respond to different programs - I find Pro Tools slightly more complicated than Logic, but that's probably because I learnt Logic first.

Obviously Pro Tools is the industry standard, but Mark Isham composed the score to 'Crash' on Logic, so as you say, different strokes for different folks'!
 
logic is legit. most people i know that compose use logic for midi stuff and virtual instruments and pro tools for compiling, overdubs, editing, and mixing.
 
Letting all the midi stuff aside.
What is the difference between protools and the sound timeline (maybe in addition with soundbooth) of premiere?

I can cut and arange on lots of tracks and modify with more filters and effects I ever use. I mean what more can a professional sound editor give?

Frank
 
Postmaster said:
Letting all the midi stuff aside.
What is the difference between protools and the sound timeline (maybe in addition with soundbooth) of premiere?

I can cut and arange on lots of tracks and modify with more filters and effects I ever use. I mean what more can a professional sound editor give?

Frank
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interface, editing, automation, effects, workflow, hardware quality, compatibility with other studios, etc.

i could go on. i'm sure premiere works great for your audio needs. just like i'm sure windows movie maker is perfect for some people's video needs. but if we're talking shootout, pro tools is the winner.
 
i'm about to start editing in a week or so for voice over (thanks to everyone who posted a reply or sent me a PM - i got help from a family friend). I was curious to see if there would be any problem editing a feature in final cut and using pro tools for editing on a PC.
 
Postmaster said:
Letting all the midi stuff aside.
What is the difference between protools and the sound timeline (maybe in addition with soundbooth) of premiere?

I can cut and arange on lots of tracks and modify with more filters and effects I ever use. I mean what more can a professional sound editor give?

Frank
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A professional sound editor is a whole lot more than just the tools that they use. Knowing how to use the tools is infinitely more important than the tool itself. A professional sound editor can cleverly use fill to replace certain noises during production. They can use alts and cut them in a way so that you would never know that you are not listening to sync sound. They can mine through the different takes to construct entire breathing and movement passages out of seemingly thin air.

Sorry if it seems like I'm ranting at you, Frank, but your post seemed to me to be a little condescending towards sound editors, like they are expendable. As you can tell by my sig, that's something that I take very personally.
 
Nah - quite the contrary, I was only curious cause sound is my weak side and I don´t know much about it (that´s probably why I mess it up most of the time).

When I sayed "sound editor" I was talking about the software.

I use Premiere and Soundbooth and I´m always confused because 80% of the filters, I have no idea what they do and how to use them in a due way.
Sadly most of my budgets don´t allow to employ a sound person (I would love to cause I think sound is at least half the film).

Frank
 
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