Hey guys,
I recently researched this for a post elsewhere and thought someone here might find it interesting/worthwhile. Feedback and comments would be great. What I wanted to do was compare the cost of building a PC vs buying a new Mac Pro. The only real issue and discrepency is that the Intel Woodcrest processors aren't available to purchase by the public yet (so far as I can tell... if anyone knows of a place let me know!). We've all seen the price comparisons between Apple and Dell (and that Apple is lower!) but I wanted to see to compare home built vs Apple.
Naturally choice of Mac or PC is highly personal and very much related the what software you choose to use. My goal isn't to convince people that they should go PC or Mac but provide some insight stimulated by curiosity.
Please bear in mind that this is not a 100% fair comparison since the woodcrest server chips aren't available to purchase individually yet (supply issues methinks) so I'll be using the equivalent dual core Intel Conroe processor instead ('desktop' vs 'server' chip). Once these chips are available a more accurate assessment can be made. Now on to the good stuff:
The baseline 2500 USD Mac Pro consists of the Following Parts:
2 Dual-Core Intel Xeon 2.66Ghz processors
Western Digital 250GB Hard Drive
GeForce 7300 GT
Apple SuperDrive
Case
Power Supply (PSU)
Total: 2500 USD
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Equivalent PC (besides specific chip)
2 Core 2.67 Ghz E6700 w/ Motherboard - $800 (http://tinyurl.com/nyg65)
1 GB 677Mhz memory - $95 (http://tinyurl.com/rbo7e)
WD 250GB HD - $75 (http://tinyurl.com/9cfve)
GeForce 7300 GT 256MB - $70 (http://tinyurl.com/rdvzq)
CD/DVD Reader/Burner DL - $31 (http://tinyurl.com/rmma2)
Case and quality 550watt PSU - $100* (http://tinyurl.com/puazx)
* with rebate, otherwise 130
Total: $1171
Now, granted this is with 1 CPU (2 cores) not 2 (4 cores) but even if you factor that in (add another $600) you're still way below the mac. Now, server boards (and sometimes the chips) can cost a bit more than desktop stuff. Still, we're not going to see a $1300 increase just from that! The motherboard/CPU combo includes a high end motherboard so I don't see there being much difference in motherboard price. Both cost a premium.
Do note that the hardware I've quoted are good components with good reviews. I'm not cutting cost by using lower end components.
You're really not getting that much for 2.5K with the Mac (nor would you by having someone else build you a PC- ie Dell - you need to go hand built). Basically just 2 high end processors with a skeleton! I have a system I'm designing for myself that has a whole lot better components and comes in just under 2K.
Is the Mac worth it? Certainly if you like Apple software! Shake is great stuff I might say! Still, there's no getting around the fact that building a PC is a lot cheaper (note: this does not mean having a PC built FOR you will be cheaper). And since there really isn't any software out there right now that can take advantage of 4 cores I do wonder at the usefulness of the feature... With the market going the way it is these days I suspect your GPU will be a whole lot more important (and a whole lot more powerful) than 4 cores in the next year or so! It seems like a better idea to spend money on the best possible GPU rather than 2 CPUs.
Anyway, FWIW.
That said I still like Macs and would love to have one
I recently researched this for a post elsewhere and thought someone here might find it interesting/worthwhile. Feedback and comments would be great. What I wanted to do was compare the cost of building a PC vs buying a new Mac Pro. The only real issue and discrepency is that the Intel Woodcrest processors aren't available to purchase by the public yet (so far as I can tell... if anyone knows of a place let me know!). We've all seen the price comparisons between Apple and Dell (and that Apple is lower!) but I wanted to see to compare home built vs Apple.
Naturally choice of Mac or PC is highly personal and very much related the what software you choose to use. My goal isn't to convince people that they should go PC or Mac but provide some insight stimulated by curiosity.
Please bear in mind that this is not a 100% fair comparison since the woodcrest server chips aren't available to purchase individually yet (supply issues methinks) so I'll be using the equivalent dual core Intel Conroe processor instead ('desktop' vs 'server' chip). Once these chips are available a more accurate assessment can be made. Now on to the good stuff:
The baseline 2500 USD Mac Pro consists of the Following Parts:
2 Dual-Core Intel Xeon 2.66Ghz processors
Western Digital 250GB Hard Drive
GeForce 7300 GT
Apple SuperDrive
Case
Power Supply (PSU)
Total: 2500 USD
------
Equivalent PC (besides specific chip)
2 Core 2.67 Ghz E6700 w/ Motherboard - $800 (http://tinyurl.com/nyg65)
1 GB 677Mhz memory - $95 (http://tinyurl.com/rbo7e)
WD 250GB HD - $75 (http://tinyurl.com/9cfve)
GeForce 7300 GT 256MB - $70 (http://tinyurl.com/rdvzq)
CD/DVD Reader/Burner DL - $31 (http://tinyurl.com/rmma2)
Case and quality 550watt PSU - $100* (http://tinyurl.com/puazx)
* with rebate, otherwise 130
Total: $1171
Now, granted this is with 1 CPU (2 cores) not 2 (4 cores) but even if you factor that in (add another $600) you're still way below the mac. Now, server boards (and sometimes the chips) can cost a bit more than desktop stuff. Still, we're not going to see a $1300 increase just from that! The motherboard/CPU combo includes a high end motherboard so I don't see there being much difference in motherboard price. Both cost a premium.
Do note that the hardware I've quoted are good components with good reviews. I'm not cutting cost by using lower end components.
You're really not getting that much for 2.5K with the Mac (nor would you by having someone else build you a PC- ie Dell - you need to go hand built). Basically just 2 high end processors with a skeleton! I have a system I'm designing for myself that has a whole lot better components and comes in just under 2K.
Is the Mac worth it? Certainly if you like Apple software! Shake is great stuff I might say! Still, there's no getting around the fact that building a PC is a lot cheaper (note: this does not mean having a PC built FOR you will be cheaper). And since there really isn't any software out there right now that can take advantage of 4 cores I do wonder at the usefulness of the feature... With the market going the way it is these days I suspect your GPU will be a whole lot more important (and a whole lot more powerful) than 4 cores in the next year or so! It seems like a better idea to spend money on the best possible GPU rather than 2 CPUs.
Anyway, FWIW.
That said I still like Macs and would love to have one