Premiere to Davinci

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DDirector

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I'm editing my footage in Premiere and wanting to color correct in DaVinci but having problems exporting XLM, AAF, and/or EDL.
Constantly getting errors and it's not letting me continue.

Biggest reason I am seeing is that of the effects I have on my clips;
> Slow motion
> Speed Ramping
> Image Flip
> Motion Blur

How am I supposed to get around this?

Im not sure if I want to switch over and start editing in Resolve.
IF I can work this around I would stick with it and just color correct in Resovle. But if not, I might be switching since I've heard good things lately.

But how can I fix this issue???
 
Join the club. We're editing four feature length docs at work and Premiere was nothing but buggy and unstable. So around 8 months ago, we decided to switch to Resolve, especially since we knew we wanted to finish in it anyway. Getting the cuts into Resolve was nothing short of a nightmare. The issues you mentioned are normal and to be expected and I wouldn't think they would carry over. Aside from basic stuff like that, we were having clips in the wrongs spots, clips replaced with other other clips, it was just bad. Turns out the issue is on the Premiere side. If we exported a Premiere XML and then immediately tried to import that XML into a new Premiere project, it was still screwed up. Ultimately we had to rebuild a lot of the project by hand but switching completely to Resolve has been one of the best decisions we've made.

For my personal work, I cut in Avid and finish in Resolve. I've never had any issues if I follow the standard protocol of removing the kinds of effects you mentioned, then making notes of what there were and where so I can recreate them in Resolve. Just be careful when removing speed effects that you don't shift the rest of the timeline. Leave yourself the gap so the edit doesn't get screwed up.
 
I don't have any issues with premiere. Everything's been good
The only issue that I have is how to move my project into Resolve to grade it.
I dont want to make the switch and I dont feel the need. The only issue like I said is getting the xml files to resolve.
 
The issues you mentioned though are standard issues. Effects don't carry over between programs, so you will have to recreate those. Are there other issues you're having getting XML into Resolve?
 
El Director said:
The issues you mentioned though are standard issues. Effects don't carry over between programs, so you will have to recreate those. Are there other issues you're having getting XML into Resolve?
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So far just this. And no issues in premiere.
Mainly the issue is that I shoot slow motion and have speed ramping and it doesnt work well for xml.

All the other effects can be disabled or avoided as far as I know.
Im starting a new edit so Ill give it a shot and see if there are other issues with the xml
 
Ill just have to reset all my custom features from premiere and copy them in resolve. Itll take a while to get used to and set everything up the way I want it.
In the mean time, Im used to premiere and love the way it works.

Is there a way around to get the files from premiere to resolve with the variable frame rates?
 
So even though there are no effects, when I import the XML into Resolve it gives me an error message saying that all of the clips cannot be found and if I want to search in a different folder. The xml file uploads into resolve. I can see all the cuts but the media is offline. And its only the slow motion footage that isnt there. The normal speed footage is there and working.
 
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Try ingesting your media into Resolve first, then import the XML, unchecking the box that says to import the media - because you already did that.
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select the offline clips in the media pool (all of them at once) and Right Click-"Relink"

Also, the off speed footage won't show up. You'll need to either remove the speed change in Premiere and recreate in Resolve or render it from Premiere and replace the clip
 
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Nope. No button to click relink media.
And still an issue with the slow motion footage not importing

I dont get it. How do they do this with feature films?
Dont they edit in premiere? Dont they edit in Resolve?
 
This process you're doing is basically an offline/online or proxy workflow since you're cutting in one program and doing a conform and finish in another. Looking up those workflows might help.
 
DDirector said:
Nope. No button to click relink media.
And still an issue with the slow motion footage not importing

I dont get it. How do they do this with feature films?
Dont they edit in premiere? Dont they edit in Resolve?
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Most feature films are cut in Avid, not Premiere. They are conformed and finished in Resolve or something similar. If you look into the workflows I suggested (offline/online) you should see how things like speed changes are done. You remove the speed change in your editing program - making note of the timecode and percentage, then redo that speed change once you've conformed in the online/coloring software. Same with repos, and any other effects that are done in the NLE and not in some external effects app like Nuke.
 
DDirector said:
Nope. No button to click relink media.
And still an issue with the slow motion footage not importing

I dont get it. How do they do this with feature films?
Dont they edit in premiere? Dont they edit in Resolve?
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A lot of films are not cut with Premiere. Even if they were, cutting a film is just that, cutting. Movies tend to not use a lot of fancy effects or filters during the cutting of the movie. In fact they rarely even use transitions like dissolves. It really is mostly cuts which translate no problem to Resolve. Heck in the past they used to use EDL which tells you just how simple a film edit can actually be.

Expecting unique flavors of filters and effects to carry from one program to another is a massive stretch and will likely never happen in our life times. If you want to use Premiere to cut with then you need to keep the edit simple enough to translate accurately to Resolve. Or like others suggested just stay in Resolve. You have to decide whats the more important tool here. Cutting with Premiere or grading with Resolve. If you use a lot of unique effects in Premiere then you may be SOL. If you can use Premiere for just cutting then you can do that in Resolve just as well without the added hassle. It may not be the answer you wanted but that is the reality of the situation and why more and more people are ditching the middle man and now doing everything with Resolve. There is a darn good reason why Blackmagic Design added video editing and advanced audio editing to Resolve. They now added Fusion as well which pretty much makes it the most advanced NLE on the planet. It may be a mistake to ignore that unless you are madly in love with Premiere.
 
Okay, But I do this for YouTube so theres more creativity in the work I do
But even if I dont do anything fancy and just add slow motion footage, it wont read that.

I tried Resolve. There are some things I like about Resolve but there are many that I do not
Resolve is just too laggy. It doesnt work very well with my clips.
And its not just the clips, its the way the program runs.
It doesnt have the keyboard shortcuts I use all the time. There simply are no options for them.
The process to edit what I do takes longer. In premiere I find that the tools are easy to use and here I have to go through 2-3 steps to do the same thing.


I CAN get away with editing in Premiere and exporting the XML into Resolve and color grading there. The ONLY thing I need to fix is how the XML deals with slow motion.
All of my other effects I could probably disable and fix them after. I dont do any hardcore effects anyways. Its mainly slow motion and ramping that I use most often.
Like, should I just export it as one video clip?
 
If you export as one clip, you lose the ability to grade each clip. I mentioned how to handle speed changes - You'll have to do that in Resolve or render those clips and drop them into the edit before exporting the XML from Premiere.
 
If you are doing this for Youtube, is there a specific reason you need resolve to grade it? I think there are many coloring options in the adobe eco system.


Moving projects to Resolve from Premiere is difficult if you are accustomed to the adobe linking. The nice thing about adobe, is that you can basically edit between AE, PS, and so on without having to commit to anything, since everything is kind of live linked. But when you go to another eco system, you have to render out actual clips for FX shots and speed ramping.

When working the way you do, best to stay in one eco system, FCP, Adobe CC, or Resolve. Choose one, and live in that world. Each brand has their own way of being a complete solution, which is great for faster turn arounds.

But if you get used to adapting to switching between Premiere and Resolve, that will change your workflow.
 
El Director said:
If you export as one clip, you lose the ability to grade each clip. I mentioned how to handle speed changes - You'll have to do that in Resolve or render those clips and drop them into the edit before exporting the XML from Premiere.
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If you export your timeline as EDL after you export as one clip, then you import the EDL in resolve it will auto cut the single one clip video into each single cuts. You still have to ability to grade each shoots. (but you had to keep the premiere timeline very clean just in 1 video track)
 
James0b57 said:
If you are doing this for Youtube, is there a specific reason you need resolve to grade it? I think there are many coloring options in the adobe eco system.


Moving projects to Resolve from Premiere is difficult if you are accustomed to the adobe linking. The nice thing about adobe, is that you can basically edit between AE, PS, and so on without having to commit to anything, since everything is kind of live linked. But when you go to another eco system, you have to render out actual clips for FX shots and speed ramping.

When working the way you do, best to stay in one eco system, FCP, Adobe CC, or Resolve. Choose one, and live in that world. Each brand has their own way of being a complete solution, which is great for faster turn arounds.

But if you get used to adapting to switching between Premiere and Resolve, that will change your workflow.
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I just really do not like the color editing in premiere. Its bad. my footage becomes very blochy and it doesnt have the features I want.
The grade just looks bad as a result. I used Resolve many years ago but havent used it since. It has the features that ive been wanting so I wanted to use it to grade whether its just for youtube or not.
Id rather make my youtube videos look good than just okay.

I've been working on seting up all the keyboard shortcuts and everything to match it to the premiere workflow I had. So I can technically edit in any editor depending on the project and how much color editing id need.
 
I bring my raw footage into Resolve first. Do a little rough cut of the shots I know I want to use -- grade them in Resolve -- export them as individual graded ProResHQ clips (making sure to have handles) -- and then use those new clips as my raw footage in Premiere for the edit. Works great with no round tripping needed and I don't have to look at ungraded S-LOG during the edit. And if decide to make a grading change, I just go back to Resolve, make the change, export with the clip(s) using the same name to the same location, and Premiere automatically updates with the new version. It might not work for a documentary with a 100:1 shooting ratio, but it works great for me.
 
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