Premiere lossless export for AE

cjwolff

cjwolff

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Hello DVX studs,

My pos laptop crashes when I try to Dynamic Link out to AE. I simply do not have the capacity. I'm bringing HDV footage into Premiere, chopping it up, and then wanting to add some pizzazz in AE.

My question is, what is the best lossless method to export my Premiere clips so I can completely shut down premiere and then work on them in AE?

Also when i bring my HDV footage into AE the aspect ratio looks squashed. My composition is 1440x1080 square pixels from an HVR-A1U.

Thank you!

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Nothing will be truly lossless; Quicktime animation is good. Perhaps you should work exclusively in AE until you obtain a non-pos laptop.

In AE, you'll want your comp settings to match your footage settings. An easy way to achieve this is by dragging your footage to the new comp icon.
 
Yes, there is a lossless way to export, and that's an uncompressed file. Premiere does either Uncompressed AVI or Microsoft AVI with Compressor set to None. It will retain the quality of the original footage at the cost of a huge filesize. Either will work with AE.

And the footage is squished because you're not working in a square pixel aspect ratio. AE has a toggle underneath the viewer screen that lets you view unsqueezed footage.
 
Have done a fair amount of dynamic linking between Premiere and AE for keying (CS4). Discovered through trial and error (many Premiere crashes) that it seems much more stable if you always open the AE project prior to Premiere. Also don't make too many changes in AE before switching to Premiere. Allow Premiere to update - save - then go back and continue working in AE. When quitting--quit Premiere first, then AE.

I have 16GB RAM, MacPro 3GHz Dual-Core and a NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 w/512MB VRAM and it was still acting funky if I didn't follow the above.
 
jordandov said:
But it's only lossless if there is no rendering, i.e. straight cuts, easily done in AE alone.
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Even that isn't "truly lossless."

You would have incurred an YV12=>RGB=>YV12 colorspace conversion (assuming your export format is for distribution like MPEG2, AVC etc...)

QT using png is another option to animation

On Windows you have a few more options for losslessly compressed e.g. lagarith RGB, huffyuv RGB, UT RGB, etc...
 
PDR said:
Even that isn't "truly lossless."

You would have incurred an YV12=>RGB=>YV12 colorspace conversion (assuming your export format is for distribution like MPEG2, AVC etc...)

QT using png is another option to animation

On Windows you have a few more options for losslessly compressed e.g. lagarith RGB, huffyuv RGB, UT RGB, etc...
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When someone asks this sort of question, I usually interpret it to mean, 'lossless' during the digital intermediary stages.
 
Kerplunk said:
Have done a fair amount of dynamic linking between Premiere and AE for keying (CS4). Discovered through trial and error (many Premiere crashes) that it seems much more stable if you always open the AE project prior to Premiere. Also don't make too many changes in AE before switching to Premiere. Allow Premiere to update - save - then go back and continue working in AE. When quitting--quit Premiere first, then AE.

I have 16GB RAM, MacPro 3GHz Dual-Core and a NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 w/512MB VRAM and it was still acting funky if I didn't follow the above.
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I'm going to try what you're saying here. I did figure that I could import an AP project into AE but I'm looking at 400 clips in AE and it just doesn't fit in with my psychological workflow :)

Also I found the tickbox that corrects the aspect ratio in AE...problem is, when I exported my first clip it was still squeezed.
 
I'm unclear about your workflow. Am guessing you're importing your clips into Premiere to do your editing and only dynamic linking certain clips into AE for effects. If that's the case, wouldn't you be rendering everything out of Premiere using Adobe Media Encoder?
 
In my experience Dynamic Link is a waste of time and is quite unreliable on Mac OS X. Had almost finished editing an event highlights video which included lots of ae shots and something happened and it didn't recognise any of the dynamic links and had to go back and re do a number of shots.

My advice is to firstly copy and paste any individual shots into ae from premiere (no render required! Just right click on a clip, copy and go into ae and paste it!) and then render it out as a losseless file (big files but great quality) with alpha and import into premiere.

Then if you want to change anything go into ae make changes and render it again but with the SAME file name and when you pop back into premiere the shot updates. FAR more reliable and you can hand content over to a FCP editor and they don't need premiere for the links to AE.
 
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