Premiere CS5 Mercury Engine With Unsupported Card

Hah! Well, let's hope they enable it for the FX880M, that looks like a common laptop card in powerful quad-core workstation laptops (I'm looking at you, Lenovo W510)...

As with all hacks, the user is assuming the risk for anything that goes wrong. I think that it should technically "work" for all CUDA cards, but Adobe restricted the list to cards that they had verified and thoroughly vetted, so there's no guarantee it'll work properly on these other cards. It also doesn't mean it *won't* work. The list is the list that Adobe has tested and approved. Other cards might be equally solid, or they might not work well, or they might not work at all, so the risk falls on the user.

That said, I'd do this in a heartbeat. :) If it doesn't work, you can always go back and edit the file to remove it.
 
Gladiator said:
Wow, I hope it works with the GTX260!
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Exactly! The GTX260 is as close as HP will let you get to the GTX285 when trying to customize a computer system on line. It's a 1.8 gig card, it should work? EDIT: Nvidia says it's 896MB not sure why HP says it's 1.8gig
 
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The problem is that the 285 is end of life and will be replaced by the 470, if i was informed correctly, It seems so far the owner that have ungraded to CS are happy,
But it still bothers me is that I have to spend over 2K to get my System to any sort of spec to use CS5 just 4months down the line and that excludes CS5 :cry: should have probably waited a little longer, and not got :nads: :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
GavinAbe said:
The problem is that the 285 is end of life and will be replaced by the 470, if i was informed correctly, It seems so far the owner that have ungraded to CS are happy,
But it still bothers me is that I have to spend over 2K to get my System to any sort of spec to use CS5 just 4months down the line and that excludes CS5 :cry: should have probably waited a little longer, and not got :nads: :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
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What do you mean? I used the trial without a CUDA supported card, Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz, and 8GB of RAM and it was still working pretty darn good.
 
Yeah you could build a a system for under $1000 that could handle smooth editing. I'm also on a q6600 with 8gbs of ram and it handles 7d footage without a sweat, with a cuda card.
 
The CS5 and MPE reviews I'm hearing so far are pretty solid. However, on the list of complaints I've seen:

- Doesn't support my card
- Costs too much
- Plugins don't work
- Is too awesome

The card issue has been published for at least 5 or 6 months now (long before the official CS5 announcement) so it's a little surprising that people would expect a non-supported card to have even a little support. Adobe plainly stated that ONLY those cards on the list would have ANY hardware support from MPE. Now, the current feedback from the users running the hack is that it "works" but not completely. You have the required RAM on the card set around 768 MB and also the number of supported streams as well. Short story, the hack isn't nearly as reliable as owning one of the supported cards. It really is strange...from time to time, you'd see lots of folks on all kinds of forums ask "what's the best card to have with Premiere Pro?" and when Adobe steps forward and answers the question in plain English for everyone, it's suddenly an outrage. People are bizarre.

As for cost...well, I've hashed that out elsewhere on the forum. I'm not a very big business all on my lonesome, but I will easily recoup my CS5 upgrade costs within 1 or 2 projects at the most. As for having to build a new machine...well, like many, I've been planning to upgrade my machine to Win7 and an i7 or Xeon processor with more RAM for a while, and this is a good excuse. I have a Quadro 1400 that I wasn't planning to replace, but for a few hundred dollars, it's probably worth the increased speed. So as for me, I'm not really including my cost to upgrade my system in the CS5 costs because a) I could still run CS5 on my current Intel Quad and 8 GB RAM if I wanted and b) upgrading editing equipment is a regular thing, every few years anyway.

The plugin issue has to do with the fact that CS5 (Premiere Pro and After Effects, anyway) are 64 bit applications and require 64 bit plugins. It's gonna take a few months for all the 3rd party vendors to get on that train, but the big ones like Red Giant are already there.

As for being too awesome...well, there's nothing I can do to help with that. CS5 really is just too awesome.
 
I could not agree more! Nicely stated!

Simon

scapsinger said:
The CS5 and MPE reviews I'm hearing so far are pretty solid. However, on the list of complaints I've seen:

- Doesn't support my card
- Costs too much
- Plugins don't work
- Is too awesome

The card issue has been published for at least 5 or 6 months now (long before the official CS5 announcement) so it's a little surprising that people would expect a non-supported card to have even a little support. Adobe plainly stated that ONLY those cards on the list would have ANY hardware support from MPE. Now, the current feedback from the users running the hack is that it "works" but not completely. You have the required RAM on the card set around 768 MB and also the number of supported streams as well. Short story, the hack isn't nearly as reliable as owning one of the supported cards. It really is strange...from time to time, you'd see lots of folks on all kinds of forums ask "what's the best card to have with Premiere Pro?" and when Adobe steps forward and answers the question in plain English for everyone, it's suddenly an outrage. People are bizarre.

As for cost...well, I've hashed that out elsewhere on the forum. I'm not a very big business all on my lonesome, but I will easily recoup my CS5 upgrade costs within 1 or 2 projects at the most. As for having to build a new machine...well, like many, I've been planning to upgrade my machine to Win7 and an i7 or Xeon processor with more RAM for a while, and this is a good excuse. I have a Quadro 1400 that I wasn't planning to replace, but for a few hundred dollars, it's probably worth the increased speed. So as for me, I'm not really including my cost to upgrade my system in the CS5 costs because a) I could still run CS5 on my current Intel Quad and 8 GB RAM if I wanted and b) upgrading editing equipment is a regular thing, every few years anyway.

The plugin issue has to do with the fact that CS5 (Premiere Pro and After Effects, anyway) are 64 bit applications and require 64 bit plugins. It's gonna take a few months for all the 3rd party vendors to get on that train, but the big ones like Red Giant are already there.

As for being too awesome...well, there's nothing I can do to help with that. CS5 really is just too awesome.
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I have a GTS250. Wonder if that will work..

looks like it might now, after reading the link. Needs a card with a minimum of 756 megs?
 
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PaPa said:
I have a GTS250. Wonder if that will work..

looks like it might now, after reading the link. Needs a card with a minimum of 756 megs?
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If you've got the 1GB version it will work.

I've got the GT240 and it works like a charm! Man, it is just awesome. I can now play 5 1080p clips from the Panasonic GH1 picture in picture. And I can play those 1080p clips with curves and color correction applied, which was not possible before as well. Best invention since sliced bread :D

You can get those cards for under 100Euros. Absolutely no need to update my graphicscard now.
 
no one running cs5 on mac pro?

I am one of those folks trying to decide if I should get another mac pro (mainly for its dual boot -- vegas win7 -- stable pro tools osx ) and now for PP CS5 whether it be on the mac or windows side of the mac pro ---- because --- i am totally topping out using vegas and not a big fan of FCP.

so i am again faced with the old decision--- should I get another mac pro or a new PC...and if i go PC --- which one!
 
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PaPa said:
I have a GTS250. Wonder if that will work..

looks like it might now, after reading the link. Needs a card with a minimum of 756 megs?
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I did this whole "hack" thing and I have the gts 250. I was editing footage off the 7D (straight from the camera) and it only plays smoothly in the timeline until i add fx or transitions. After that it just lags (running 2x 24" Full 1080p monitors). a simple crossfade wont even preview in full, 1/2 or 1/4. Im thinking of getting the gtx 285...any ideas on how well that will perform? i7 920 processor, 12GB ram ddr3,
 
ive got a GTX285 and it works great with premier pro CS5 :)

i got 9 1080p picture in picture vids playing smoothly that were all straight from my Panasonic HMC 150.........and that was even before the update!

rather strangely though, it doesnt seem to like footage that has been converted to cineform which is what i used to do when using CS4!

ive got a i7 processor and 16gig ram.........so not much different to your spec :)

cheers,

scott
 
aituv said:
I did this whole "hack" thing and I have the gts 250. I was editing footage off the 7D (straight from the camera) and it only plays smoothly in the timeline until i add fx or transitions. After that it just lags (running 2x 24" Full 1080p monitors). a simple crossfade wont even preview in full, 1/2 or 1/4. Im thinking of getting the gtx 285...any ideas on how well that will perform? i7 920 processor, 12GB ram ddr3,
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Sure you did it right? My gh1 clips play just fine. And I've only got the gt240. i7 860 and 8gb RAM.

I can play 5 clips picture in picture. Or I can add curves and colour correction, no problem. Is you footage on the OS drive, or on a seperate drive? Or maybe 7D is more complicated than GH1. Will try that next week.
 
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