Premiere and the 150

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Jim Simon

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A poster over at the Adobe forums has an issue with his Panasonic AVCHD camera (not the 150) and Premiere Pro. He shoots weddings.

It seems that Premiere's Media Browser doesn't always see all of his clips, particularly when he has lots of short opening clips, following by longer spanned ceremony clips, then lots more short clips. He can switch to File mode in the Browser and see them all, but importing that way does not stitch together the spanned clips.

Has anyone else had any issues with seeing the entire contents of an SD card using CS5?
 
I have no problems with the HMC151 and Pr CS5. :)

Pr CS5 does stitch longer shots together without no issues, but it wont if one ignore to copy the entire PRIVATE folder to the HDD. Thats the key to make it work, never ever copy only the STREAM folder because the meta data that is needed for stitching long shots are not in the STREAM folder. This is an important step in the workflow with any memory card camera and the very step many users miss.

I do never use Media Browser, i use the Import Folder feature to import the PRIVATE folder/s in one go. However, when i use Media Browser stitching clips work as expected, as long as the folder structure is intact, and i can see and import all clips on the card i am browsing without issues.

Good to know is that if the long shoot is spanned over lets say four (4) clips, all four (4) clips are imported but each one is treated as one (1) continuous shot and that can be confusing.

/Roger
 
When you add in the GPU acceleration, 64 bit software, Dynamic Link and native editing of all major (and even some fairly minor) video formats, then CS5 can be a real time saver over any other NLE currently in the same market segment.
 
Yes premiere cs5 works fine with avchd to a certain extend.
You need to have a descent cpu, lots of ram and fast HDs. There are issues. I have used Ppro cs since cs4 for editting my hmc 151 stuff. And I have spend a lot of money upgrading my PC to be able to deliver relatively smooth editting. Avchd is quite demanding and even with a fast PC you may experience issues from time to time. My two most common issues:
1. When using one avchd movieclip in same sequence and fx cut it in two - shorten the two subclips and åut them together again using a transition you will often experince stuttering in playback while editting.
2. Quite a few have experinced mystical crashes with no obvious reason. Ppro cs5 locks up and you have to wait from 2 - 5 minutes before you can work again.

Apart frpm that ppro cs5 works great - if you have a fast pc. Be aware of the graphiccards supported before buying new pc!

My pc that I use for editting avchd from hmc151 (I plan to buy much faster cpu):

Intel i920 3,0 ghz
12 gb ram
2 x 1.5 TB hds
Nvidia fx3800
Windows 7 pro 64 bit

Cheers
Morten
 
hmmm. You are running a i920 and experiencing lockups that freeze the machine up for minutes on end? Well, I'll take that into consideration, but the other issues seem to be worth exploring..

Might be better than I think...thanks for the feedback.
 
For whatever it's worth 8string, CS5 has been a dream for me. I'm running on a Q6600 with a hacked GTS250 card, and 95% of any lockups (and there aren't many), is when I haven't accessed a particular drive in a while, and I need to wait for it to spin back up when trying to use a piece a video on it.
 
For most editting with avchd ppro will work just fine. But be aware that just a few effects or transitions may result it jittery / stuttering playback when editting. This could result in a bad editting experince, but will have no effect on final output. It is only when editting that your realtime workflow may be slowed down because of these issues. BTW you could work just fine with a "hacked" card (search google for hack for nvidiacards in ppro cs5). I bought a fx3800 because I wanted the certified card, but could easely had used my old gtx 285 with hack. There's not the big difference in performance after all...all in all I can recommend ppro cs5 for editting avchd files from hmc 150 series, but just keep in mind that the faster pc the better editting experience! I have read about folks with no issues at all when running i980x with raid setups. If your on a budget that could be difficult to achieve. So I would recommend transcoding to another less demanding format if that is the case...

;)
Morten
 
2. Quite a few have experinced mystical crashes with no obvious reason.
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As a daily visitor to the Adobe provided Premiere Pro forums, I have to say I don't recall seeing this complaint all that frequently.
 
Mike Harvey said:
For whatever it's worth 8string, CS5 has been a dream for me. I'm running on a Q6600 with a hacked GTS250 card, and 95% of any lockups (and there aren't many), is when I haven't accessed a particular drive in a while, and I need to wait for it to spin back up when trying to use a piece a video on it.
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Mike, try turning off your drive sleep mode, it's in the rom setup, usually. Fixed all my similar crashes. It's an environmental function, usually under power saving features in the rom at boot time.
 
Also, depending on the antivirus software you use, you can experience this slowdown. I use Avast and, if I click outside of PP (on my desktop, for example) and then back inside PP, it stops working for anywhere from 10seconds to a minute+.

The solution is to disable Avast while editing...I don't know whether it's a problem with PP or Avast.
 
It's probably the AV software - those things run a ton of background processes that can muck up your system. If I was editing on a PC, I would probably just lock it out of the internet completely and forego spyware/virus protection.
 
Make sure he is importing the entire PRIVATE folder. Otherwise the metadata to instruct premiere to re-join spanned clips is ignored.
 
Antivirus software is a HUGE issue, especially with video editing. People always seem to blame their computer or primary software before even considering what their antivirus is doing to the performance of processor intensive applications. It seems as if antivirus programs are like cameras -- people want to believe that what they invested in is the best thing out there. Like cameras, it almost never is.

The most important thing you can do is use the advanced functions of your security software applications to completely ignore everything going on with your video, sometimes called "exceptions," and this can be quite challenging because programs like Premiere are often using other applications that you may not know you need to make exceptions for.

So, if you can succeed in actually getting all your security to totally ignore everything going on with Premiere and/or After Effects -- you may discover a night and day difference. This includes both firewall and antivirus. The first version of CS5, for example, had major hang up issues with bad firewall settings.
 
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