premiere 2.0 thoughts

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egproductions

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Overall I really like the new version.


The Good:

- I like the letterboxing of widescreen footage though dv so i dont have to buy a montor that can except widescreen signals (Although i need a faster computer to utilize this feature.)

- I like the new lok to the windows media encoder thing also.

-24p advanced and normal support is exactly where it needs to be for my purposes

- havent tried the multicam editing but cant wait

- havent tried the pdf video feature but cant wait also

- the presets for diffrent timelines such as sd-sdi and hd-sdi are really cool (now I just need a card that would support these)

The Bad:

- More proccessor intensive so I need a fast omputer specailly to utitlize some of the features

- I wish it got released a little later and would ave incorporated support for the XLH1's 24f in HDV but i guess no NLE supports this yet (hopefully there will be a patch soon)

- There is funky shifting that my ZR-100 (what i am using as a deck) is doing when given the widscreen signal through firewire. Previously on pro 1.5 the signal would be a problem for the camera and it would just recognize it as 16:9 and letterbox it for me. not it switches back and forth

- sometimes i will be playing my timline and the audio will just stop in the middle while the video still goes and i have to stop and start it again to get it to work

- still pops in the audio playback because there isn't enough cpu power

- there is still the conforming audio issue when audio is imported. I see the point when the audio isnt 4800KHZ but it shouldnt have to do it when it just captured dv footage.

overall i am happy about the upgrade and it was easy to learn the new features and get used ot it. plus it gives me an excuse to upgrade my computer. The upgrade is an improvement from 1.5 but like any other NLE it stil need a little work in certain areas.
 
I agree, I have been very happy with the performance of 2.0. And I did a quick multi-cam test, pretty sweet. I haven't had many problems at all except for the occasional audio pop. Time to upgrade the old AMD 2500.
 
I like it!

I like it!

Ok, We are in the process of installing Pro 2.0 on our editors at school. Today I gave it my first try (on a not yet fully installed machine).
First off I hit a bug that I couldn't save (or change) my playback preferances, so I couldn't get it out to the nice big Sony Luma LCD we have connected, but I think the video card drivers instalation is still in progress, so I'll ignore that for now.

As for actually editing. I love it! :)

The new style of docked windows with the ability to float them (even outside the "main" premiere window) is VERY nice. - much less wasted space.

Of the new features, the first one I had a play with was Multicam. Took a moment to understand hwo it works, but after a quick trip to help and now I know! It's very intuetive and works great! It's limeted to 4 cameras, but like everything in Prem Pro, you can nest multiple multicam sessions to create more complex mixes (though still only 4 at a time) I can see a LOT of use for this in the future when I do event coverage.

Then I found in the Video Effects under "video" a timecode burn effect. "It's about time!" This too worked well and offered a nice bunch of options. You can burn TC onto any clip from the original media timecode (from the camera), from the start of the clip in question, or you can define your your own preset TC. You can postition and size the burn window as you wish and there's a couple of other options too. Neat.

Under the "Create new" menu there is now "Transparent video" which works just like "Black video" except that, as the name implies, it's transparant. This is hadny for creating effects tracks - for example for laying a TC burn over an entire sequence.

The last new feature I had time to try came at the end of the session. That PDF embeded video for coments. This was the first rough cut of the video for a client. I hit "Export coments thingy" and it rended me out a handy little .wmv (QT also available) embded into a PDF, and even had the option to upload it automatically to a FTP server - Great if it's a long edit, just start the export at the end of the day and it'll be up for review by your clients in the morning!
You can also password protect the .PDF when you make it, so if (like this one) the project is confidential, you and the client can be confident that the review copy is for their eyes only.

I just downloded the PDF at home, and the "reviewer" side of things works great. Normal windows media controls, and just pause and add coments at any time! For redundecy (and because I could) I also had Premiere burn TC onto the review version of the clip, which not only helps with coments and looks more pro, but also acts as added security as a "watermark". I'll see how well importing my own (and the clients?!) comments back into the project works tommorrow. :-)


Overall I'm very happy with the upgrade. It ran nice and fast on our medium powerfull PC and I experienced no real performance lags - despite the fact that I was running the entire project from a Maxtor USB-2 external drive!

- Mikko
 
Glad to hear you like it Mikko! I second everything u said...my clients really enjoy the clip notes feature. I've used it on a number of occassions. The only thing I wish Adobe did concerning the redesign is the implementation of batch rendering/exporting. That was a major fumble on their part
 
One feature that I really would like to see, is some sort of indicator of the real-time playback quality. It looks great, but is the computer really playing back the timeline in full quality (enoguh that I don't need ot render?) I'd love a little indicator to tell me if it's "preview" or "output" quality that is playing back.
Note to self: Must remember to talk to someone about that at NAB.

- Mikko
 
good point...from my understanding is not all real time effects all hardware based? by this i mean say a matrox card which has some real time applications, such as shooting in front of a greenscreen, but being able to remove the green screen in real time...but this is all reliant on the capture card....but i do understand the point...btw mentioned to adobe about the batch rendering/export feature...hopefully we won't have to upgrade to 2.5 or 3.0 to obtain this feature...but that's probably going to be the case.

have a good time at the NAB!
 
mikkowilson said:
One feature that I really would like to see, is some sort of indicator of the real-time playback quality. It looks great, but is the computer really playing back the timeline in full quality (enoguh that I don't need ot render?) I'd love a little indicator to tell me if it's "preview" or "output" quality that is playing back.
Note to self: Must remember to talk to someone about that at NAB.

- Mikko
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Actually you kind of have one. I often record/burn a DVD in real-time [using a Panasonic DVD recorder] directly from the timeline without rendering and almost all of the time it looks great. When you get the red bar at the top of a clip most people think this means the clip requires rendering, what it is actually telling you is that it must be rendered to "guarantee” real-time performance. To keep the timeline playing back in real-time Premiere will lower the resolution and if it changes the output resolution at all you get the red bar.

Unless it’s a complicated effect with multiple tracks most of the time the lower resolution is not that noticeable.
 
Really?? Hmmm... Interesting.
I need to look around in the documentsation for a litte more info on this and how it affects my workflow. I am/was definatly one of those who was of the impression that the Red indicated that a Final output version of the footage (Preview file) didn't exist.

- Mikko
 
One thing I like about 2.0:

When you audio gain a clip, enter a number, and then press enter twice, your second "enter" hits "OK" instead of "normalize"

Pretty small I know, but 1.5 was SO annoying for that. :)
 
overnighttolondon said:
One thing I like about 2.0:

When you audio gain a clip, enter a number, and then press enter twice, your second "enter" hits "OK" instead of "normalize"

Pretty small I know, but 1.5 was SO annoying for that. :)
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That's funny, I was wondering how a part of my audio had become normalized - now I know. Sometimes its the small things that drive you nuts.:dankk2:

Thanks
 
I just tried Prem2 on my new AMD dual processor dual core Opteron 270 system. Wow it smokes! I can do so much in real time that it amazes me. My previous system had been a P4 3ghz from 2003 on which i was running the Matrox RTX100 hardware. This new Opteron system can do more effects in realtime (software only) than the RTX100 hardware can on the old system! With a fast computer like this there is no need for a RTX100 card, besides maybe the analog capture and output.
 
I find that realtime accelerating cards are nice to stay ahead in teh professional world but for my own purposes I would rather wait a few extra mintures for something to render since the card will be obsolete in a couple of years anyway. THe anolog inputs are the nice thignss about them becasue they usually convert your black levels whihc i regualr vidoe camera wil not do for you.
 
Hey, I'm new to this board, just having bought my DVX earlier this week. I have to say first off that its amazing! I love all the different settings and I have much to learn. I've also been using Premiere Pro 2.0 since it came out and am very impressed with it as well. I haven't imported anything and tried it out from my DVX but so far it edits at lightning speed my other footage from a PVGS120. I've used Final Cut Pro and Premiere Pro and think that they both have similiar interfaces. 2.0 is good but I may move to Avid soon as it is the industry standard.

-Kegan
 
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