PPro cs6, neatvideo and contrast

I just bought NeatVideo for PPro cs6. Just sayin' that I'm a noob with it. I set it up just like their website tutorials instruct.

My first export was a bit strange. I'm using a Luma Curve, the Three Way Color Corrector, and NeatVideo's Reduce Noise effects in that order (top to bottom in the Effect Controls stack). I've exported this clip a couple of times, once before NeatVideo (which is what convinced me to buy it) and then again after. The difference between the two is the addition of NeatVideo; nothing else changed.

What I'm seeing is that the NeatVideo version gives me much less graininess, which is a good thing. But it's also making the image darker and more contrasty. Sufficiently so that I have to fix it.

I can verify that it's real by looking at the YC Waveform. As I switch the Reduce Noise effect on/off, the YC Waveform shows that my peaks extend by about 10 IRE, both top and bottom. I had to look up what happens when you get a black that is less than zero IRE, which was an interesting learning experience all by itself. :grin: But not something I want to show on the web or burn to DVD.

It seems to be tied to NV's sharpening. If I turn on a modest amount of sharpening to recover some of the detail lost in the de-speckling process, I see what's described above in the YC Waveform. If I turn off the sharpening, I don't see this in the YC Waveform. Next up is to export a 30 second clip, one with and one without sharpening and compare them full screen.

If I can get away without sharpening, I guess I don't have a problem. But sooner or later I'm going to want sharpening. When I do, how do I compensate for the contrast and tone changes?
 
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Readjust the levels using the Three Way.

Um, no, I'd do that with the luma curve. You did see that I was using a luma curve, yes? And yes, clearly, one can always do this kind of iterative work -- if one has the time. It can take a few iterations, and the only way I can see the results using NeatVideo is to export about 30 seconds of video and play it and evaluate it. Which on my system takes about 15 minutes. Too long to wait, but too short to start doing something else. Yucko.

I'm asking for a more direct technique. If there is one. Which I'm kinda doubting.
 
How about trying Red Giant's Denoiser II? I can't tell you how many times I've recommended this plugin and it works just as well as NV, if not better, in my opinion. You shouldn't have any issues with shifts in color values and you can always download a trial and see for yourself. I'm not entirely sure if they have released a version for Premiere Pro but it works great with After Effects. Just thought it was worth a look.
-B
 
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