paulears
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Sorry for no replies - the topic dropped off the list and I missed it.
In the video I linked to, I was asked if the room mics were fancy mics? Absolutely NOT! The main mix from the audio mixer, plus the on camera mics, that's all.
In this case, there were three camera - once central, locked off - but in the area where the technical guys were and they talked all the way through!, The other two cameras were on the ground and first floor levels - and were both JVCs, with the usual very short shotgun - the ones that seem to be identical on JVC, panasonic and Sony cameras, with the short cable to the ch1 XLR input at the front. The mix output was as usual, supposed to be stereo, but most FOH mixers with PA stacks perhaps 20m apart usually mix in almost mono - with only very small panning differences - in this case a little spread on the drums, mixed a little to the left and the brass section a little way to the right. However, the two camera audio tracks were panned hard left and right, and although their level comes up in the applause, it's still in the mix which gives a little realism to what is pretty well a dry sound with artificial reverb on the voice.
In this example - everything goes through the audio mixer - and you can see the drums are completely screened to give some isolation and control.
In normal recordings, as in a band without the technical assistance, then getting rid of the ambient sound will be the major snag. I'm not a great fan of expensive mics for live events because they rarely get looked after, and if you are going to do this often, then you can get some quite reasonably priced audio interfaces that will give you 8 to 12 mic ins, so you can record the audio cleanly and mix it either at edit stage or before you get that far.
The price for this kind of kit is dropping very fast. I've ordered one of the new Behringer X32s - getting rave reviews and comes with a 32ch firewire output so live mixes and recording cab be done in great quality at a silly price. I'm planning on a combined video and audio recording service, and if necessary, PA too - because the mixer is quite capable - so we can do video, audio recording AND PA all in one - ideal for small festivals and that kind of thing. For me - the key to good audio is what you can do in post, so good separation is really important to have.
In the video I linked to, I was asked if the room mics were fancy mics? Absolutely NOT! The main mix from the audio mixer, plus the on camera mics, that's all.
In this example - everything goes through the audio mixer - and you can see the drums are completely screened to give some isolation and control.
In normal recordings, as in a band without the technical assistance, then getting rid of the ambient sound will be the major snag. I'm not a great fan of expensive mics for live events because they rarely get looked after, and if you are going to do this often, then you can get some quite reasonably priced audio interfaces that will give you 8 to 12 mic ins, so you can record the audio cleanly and mix it either at edit stage or before you get that far.
The price for this kind of kit is dropping very fast. I've ordered one of the new Behringer X32s - getting rave reviews and comes with a 32ch firewire output so live mixes and recording cab be done in great quality at a silly price. I'm planning on a combined video and audio recording service, and if necessary, PA too - because the mixer is quite capable - so we can do video, audio recording AND PA all in one - ideal for small festivals and that kind of thing. For me - the key to good audio is what you can do in post, so good separation is really important to have.
