Poll/Question: Canon 5D RAW User's Guide

Poll/Question: Canon 5D RAW User's Guide

  • Umm…yes, please!

    Votes: 21 95.5%

  • Meh…not so much.

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Total voters
    22
yoclay said:
It would be a great alternative to a certain guide which appears to be being sold for about $20 right now....you know the one I mean.
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I just got banned from the eoshd.com forum because I wrote more or less the following:

"Ironic that we have to pay for a manual to use something that someone else has made available to us for free.... ;) " and then something about forum users at dvx about to make a free version of the 5D raw guide and that I could easily see the same thing going for the 50D.

That's pretty close to what I wrote.

The post got moderated out, and from reading the remaining posts on the forum (Andrew Reid cleaned out that thread A LOT!) , I wasn't the only one who thought this was a curious case.
But I guess he isn't one to take a bit of criticism.

Looking forward to seeing this DVX guide instead.
 
Major props to everyone contributing to this and not asking for money. I've contributed a number of times to ML and will continue to do so because they're creating something great and asking for donations rather than just compiling everyone else's work and charging $20 for the PDF.
 
So here's a rough outline of topics that we're working on for the Guide. Let me know if there are things you want to see included that aren't on this list. :D

Part One: Loading the Firmware

-Recommended CF Cards

-Installation: A Complete Step-By-Step Guide
1. Preparing Your Cards
2a. Making Your Cards Bootable (Mac)
2b. Making Your Cards Bootable (Win)
3. Formatting Your Cards in exFAT Mode
4. Copying the Firmware to the Cards
5. Activating the Firmware

-Tips and "Best Practices"

-Troubeshooting



Part Two: Getting Ready To Shoot

-Should You Shoot RAW?

-Setting Up ML Firmware For RAW Shooting

-Recommended Canon Menu Settings

-Resolution and Aspect Ratios Explained

-Must-Have Accessories for Shooting RAW

-Dealing With Audio



Part Three: Shooting ML RAW

-How To Get the Most Out of RAW

-Exposure (including ETTR and Auto-ETTR)

-Focus

-Overcranking

-Time-Lapse

-Shooting in Crop Modes

-Dual ISO Function


Part Four: Post-Production Workflows

-Media Management and Backup

-Preparing to Edit

-Transcoding Workflows

-Using Resolve with ML RAW (Proxy and DNG Workflows)

-Native Editing in Premiere with GingerHDR

-Working With LUTs (Add LUT Central)

-Grading RAW Files

-Mastering and Delivery
 
It would be helpful to add audio, on set playback options as well as proxy editing solutions as well Stephen. One such thing would be to use an external recorder like the Ninja 2 to cover all three of those issues.

Unfortunately with firmware 1.13 the HDMI out isn't clean so at this point clean dual system recording (in case of failure) is not an option.

Thanks again for putting together this guide!
 
Hey, Steve!

Right now, my understanding is that audio and playback are, for all practical purposes, not viable with ML RAW right now. I know the ML guys have been working on the audio side of things, and they'll continue to do so, and hopefully we'll get it at some point.

I've got a Ninja-2, but I haven't tried using it with my ML RAW 5D III yet.

My personal feelings are that RAW is best-suited to narrative work or controlled corporate shoots (stuff where you have a sound guy), or MOS shooting. As new features are enabled or enhanced, it might be more useful for other types of shooting, and I'll keep updating the Guide to reflect that.

Proxy editing and other workflows will be part of the final section of the guide, which I'm putting off until the rest is done. The Magic Lantern forums have a lot of great information on workflows, so you might check out the Raw Video forum over there in the meantime.

Cheers!

Steve Kahn said:
It would be helpful to add audio, on set playback options as well as proxy editing solutions as well Stephen. One such thing would be to use an external recorder like the Ninja 2 to cover all three of those issues.

Unfortunately with firmware 1.13 the HDMI out isn't clean so at this point clean dual system recording (in case of failure) is not an option.

Thanks again for putting together this guide!
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Agreed Stephen!

I'm just so excited to start a (narrative) project which has sound. I know dual ISO is sexy as hell. I'm beyond excited about that! But in thinking about the next project sound is paramount and the idea of syncing sound old school via a clap board (something I've never done) feels very scary.

Between dual ISO and ML exploring the use of the SD card alongside the CF and even raw itself in a vista-vision camera is just so exciting. Putting the pieces together and chomping at the bit to begin a proper project with 5D3 raw.

Cheers!
 
I'm with you, amigo! What the ML guys are doing is pretty amazing. The quality of the images that come out of the camera are mind-blowing when you think of what the camera was designed to do.

And trust me… Don't be intimidated by manually syncing sound shot with a clapper. It's only slightly more complicated than auto-syncing, depending on your edit system. :D


Steve Kahn said:
Agreed Stephen!

I'm just so excited to start a (narrative) project which has sound. I know dual ISO is sexy as hell. I'm beyond excited about that! But in thinking about the next project sound is paramount and the idea of syncing sound old school via a clap board (something I've never done) feels very scary.

Between dual ISO and ML exploring the use of the SD card alongside the CF and even raw itself in a vista-vision camera is just so exciting. Putting the pieces together and chomping at the bit to begin a proper project with 5D3 raw.

Cheers!
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Stephen Mick said:
And trust me… Don't be intimidated by manually syncing sound shot with a clapper. It's only slightly more complicated than auto-syncing, depending on your edit system. :D
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It's a minor inconvenience that filmmakers managed to live with for a hundred years. I shot a narrative scene with just the sync beep, it was off by a few frames but A1ex has worked on the sync beep since then so it may be frame accurate now.
 
Stephen just updated the full-color guide. it is like 44 pages now. Stephen is the dvxuser hoss for the year (along with those who have helped him compile this guide)

anyway... I wanted to ask you guys if you would find an email subscription useful for this guide? No spam, no sell, of course. But, I thought I might set up a little newsletter subscription so you can get an email updating you every time this guide gets updated. Something folks would find attractive?
 
This guide is awesome, very nice looking. If you guys don't want any donations, I'm sending something to ML in your honor. Thanks for putting the time into it.
 
We've already updated the file with some additional information, so whenever you're ready to refer to it, be sure to re-download from the same link.

Working on workflow and editing stuff right now.


SM

Cory Braun said:
Did a brief overview of it, and it looked great! Going to try to really sit down with it tomorrow, and I'll let you know what I think. Thanks again man.
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Looking great.If you need any help, PM me, i've been doing alot of testing with the overcrank and Dual ISO features

One tip, i would arrange all the ML technical stuff at the front, then the more general info at the back (eg cinema DNG, editing, workflow etc).
 
Thanks for the post, Jay! I may hit you up to review the overcrank and Dual ISO sections before I add them to the Guide.


Cheers!

SM
 
Jay Birch said:
Looking great.If you need any help, PM me, i've been doing alot of testing with the overcrank and Dual ISO features

One tip, i would arrange all the ML technical stuff at the front, then the more general info at the back (eg cinema DNG, editing, workflow etc).
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Would love to try out Dual ISO, has anyone had issues with it? The 5d3 I am going to evolve is not mine, otherwise I'd have it loaded in a heart beat. About to shoot some stuff destined for 720p, so I was thinking of shooting dual ISO for daylight exteriors (with the 1Dc on standby). Thanks
 
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