Please, please, stop this on going trend!

doublearon727

doublearon727

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Please stop posting your HVX footage on YouTube and then showing it to everyone else on dvxuser. What's the point? It's OK for YouTube but not for "Screen Grabs/Clips of HVX footage". We can only criticize your work based on your storyline or material. To be truthful, I think people come to the "Screen Grabs/Clips of HVX footage" section of "dvxuser.com" to see the HVX's stunning visuals in action. Most of the time I just skip a thread if their video is on YouTube. I understand it cost money to stream your clips with bandwidth but you have to see how pointless it is to show what your HVX has got through small moving, pixelated images.

It's almost as annoying as ME making a thread and not displaying any goods.

Anyone agree? Am I being too assertive?
 
I hardly ever watch footage posted on YouTube for the same reason.
Not that it makes me angry; it's just that the footage never looks good on YouTube. Might as well be VHS.
 
This has been discussed before. The point is a user should offer 2 versions of their clips, a downloadable one from a free hosting site such as megaupload (if they don't have their own server) and an easily viewable one such as Youtube.

The advantage of youtube is that it lets me see right away whether the clip is of interest to me. I don't want to wait for 10-15 minutes downloading a clip only to realize that I hate it.
 
Blue text on dark grey is unreadible... FYI. It doesn't help your rant one bit when people cant even read it.
 
arges03 said:
Perhaps a sticky with a list of sites you can upload to would help those who don't have server space?
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this is probably the best bet. and people can just add more as they find them.

i agree with the above post though about youtube. it's cool for myspace or something like that but whats the point in posting it in the HVX section if it's been compressed so badly it looks like it was shot on a high end camera phone?

i dont hate when people use it here, i just skip over it. to each his own.
 
I skip the youtube and google video hosted videos, because my work's proxy server prevents me from visiting these sites. I only get to see videos hosted on personal sites, or at places like megaupload, etc.

So, yea...I'd love to see the "youtube" trend stop...but I also understand why people use it (free, easy, quick download, etc, etc).
 
I agree with you that watching good quality video is huge, but as FilmBoy77 said it's best to have two versions, a good and a bad quality version.
But I don't think it should stop completely as it's so easy to use and if your looking for idea's these clips can sometimes be perfect.

Cheers

---Seb---
 
I skip youtube stuff also. The funny thing though is that I'm seeing more and more people looking for shooters and asking to see thier youtube stuff. I guess if it looks good on youtube its got to look good full rez.
 
youtube dosn't change the lighting, the DOF, the camera movements, editing, etc...

if uploaded correctly, things can look great on youtube, just at a smaller resolution.
 
I agree,, I skip YouTube stuff. It shouldn't be that hard to post at least a decent rez 480 clip.
 
I've been looking for a good site to upload to. I just looked into Google video and if you download the desktop Google Video Uploader, you can "upload as many videos to Google Video as you like, without any size or length limitations" (emphasis mine).

http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=41219

This seems pretty good to me, unless I'm missing something(?)

I checked out the two sites provided by Texas Video Guy above and megaupload has a 500mb limit and rapidshare has a 100mb limit.

Thoughts, anyone?
 
patssle said:
youtube dosn't change the lighting, the DOF, the camera movements, editing, etc...

if uploaded correctly, things can look great on youtube, just at a smaller resolution.
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good point

does look crappy though, so YouTube will only be good for those analyzing with a trained eye, or those who know nothing but spend all day on YouTube or just finished watching a few YouTube videos right before yours...

The problem is when you send someone a link and all he sees is your video, worse if they don't know YouTube... You could end up being underestimated
I payed $210 and got 2 years pre-paid hosting with up to 8 domains, 4 domain registrations pre-paid, 2.5TB of monthly bandwidth and 400GB of space...
that's the other way to go... pay up-front but it comes to $8.75 a month
 
you can get reliable hosting even cheaper than that too. godaddy.com packages start at $3.99 a month. if you can afford an HVX you should be able to afford $20 to get hosting for five months or more. some people may just not be aware how easy it is to setup your own webpage/hosting and think its too much of a hassle. man, they're teaching that stuff in junior high these days so thats how high the learning curve is. :) i think a lot of people post on youtube because its so easy. however, the tradeoff is video quality.

an actor i worked with sent me a link to another short he's working on and the guys shot it on film and it was youtube and it looked like crap. you wouldve never known it was shot on film based on that compression. i agree youtube doesnt change DOF, lighting, etc, but a majority of us wanna see the detail of what our camera can do and the power of HD baby! :)

at the end of the day though....to each his own i guess.
 
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Bus No. 8 said:
I've been looking for a good site to upload to. I just looked into Google video and if you download the desktop Google Video Uploader, you can "upload as many videos to Google Video as you like, without any size or length limitations" (emphasis mine).

http://video.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=41219

This seems pretty good to me, unless I'm missing something(?)

I checked out the two sites provided by Texas Video Guy above and megaupload has a 500mb limit and rapidshare has a 100mb limit.

Thoughts, anyone?
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It's true that Google video doesn't have a length or size limitation, but its compression scheme is actually worse than youtube. Well, maybe not worse, but certainly not better. The actualy resolution that it gets compressed to is about the same as youtube, but the window display stretches it out (like Fullscreen mode on Youtube) so you get to see low res video on a big screen. Yuck!
 
Ah - good to know. But damn - I was all excited to get home and get some stuff uploaded.

I think I'll check out godaddy.com, as suggested by FilmBoy 77.
 
There is a compression software out there that can get that close enough to uncompressed look into YouTube with the small resolutions... it is about $500 and if you were into a big web-project it would be good just to be able to stream faster... of course getting it just for YouTube is a complete waste of money... but a page that you make money from or if you have the money and you can afford it so as to try and figure out if you could stream high rez for your reel... well, ... mhe... just and idea... I am not about to spend $500 on it cause I need other stuff first and I always right now, but a great thing to have nonetheless and for many it would be a steal at $500
 
USLatinContent said:
There is a compression software out there that can get that close enough to uncompressed look into YouTube with the small resolutions... it is about $500 and if you were into a big web-project it would be good just to be able to stream faster...
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What software were you referring to?

Personally, I don't mind watching YouTube clips of HVX200 projects. I'm very familiar with the "wow" factor of the camera and I'd be looking more at the composition, storyline, acting, etc. I can "look past" YouTube to critique such attributes.

But if it's test footage of settings, 35mm adapters, etc . . . well, YouTube doesn't really cut it. I would then like to see a decent Quicktime movie (or similar) of the footage.
 
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