FS5: Picture profiles info

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snapdragon

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Hi all,

I just received my FS5 (and loving it) but I'm a bit unsure about the picture profiles. Picture profiles aren't something I've had to deal with before (I always used Wide DR on my C100 and it was perfect).

So I'm just wondering if anyone knows what the best profile to use would be in terms of getting good dynamic range, nice highlight rolloff and without the need to do heavy grading? I've tried a few of the stock profiles but unless you use the cine or log profiles, the highlight clipping seems to be really harsh and ugly, even if it's only barely clipping.

My work is all for web and usually run and gun, so I want to get a nice look in camera without the need to do much grading.

Any info appreciated :)
 
I made one from Slog3, I just crushed the blacks a bit and upped the sat a little and reduced sharpness a bit.

Just set the camera up looking at a scene with your normal light you end up shooting a lot, and hook up your Eval monitor and start playing with the settings until you get something you like.

I posted this video earlier of how I set it up and I flicked through the PPS. 2 of them are ones I customized, if you listen to the commentary you will hear what I did.

This was just my first tests. I will post more in a while. Just start experimenting...

 
the trick in making profiles is you need to test/make them in the conditions you are going to shoot in and its hard to shoot outside bright sun then a half hour latter go in and see what you got... take notes Now I have a Shogun and really think having a really good screen is really going to help the process but if you don't, I wonder if a laptop and the LAN connection could be used to test profiles as you make them? Always test for yourself, I have a feeling its going to be just like the FS100 and we will have tons of really really bad popular profiles floating around.
 
Like you, I'm coming from the C100 to the FS5, and so far I've had good results with Cine3 or Cine4 in Cinema color for low light and better detail in shadows, and Cine1 for daylight and detail in highlights. That's to match with WDR. S-log2 is a better match for C-log, at least straight from the camera before grading.

Hope that helps, good luck!
-Slavik
 
This PDF is handy to see the curves of the various Cine's and where middle grey is placed. Data courtesy of Abelcine.

http://www.starcentral.ca/forums/Sony PMW.pdf

As has been discussed, Cine1 is good for daylight or high key lighting and Cine3/4 better for lower lighting conditions.

Slog is going to give you the most dynamic range (14 stops) from the sensor however, the cine's are limited to 11/12 stops.
 
Thanks all. I've had a bit of a play with Cine 1 and I quite like it. I've got a shoot tomorrow so will use it then and see how it goes :)
 
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