Petition to increase the GH1's functionality with increased bitrate and HDMI-out

[Ian-T]

Red will make a little noise with the Scarlet...but not nearly as much as they could have if they stepped up a lot sooner. Why should the average joe consider Raw shooting anymore? I understand it's important to the indy filmakers but they were not the only ones Red was after to begin with. This upgrade should push them to offer at least the same type of options (in regards to inexpensive interchangeable lens with a Super 35 sensor and non-proprietery). At least give us a bigger sensor than 2/3s even on the low end fixed lens Scarlet I say. it does not have to be Super35 but give us something more (comparable) to work with.

 

[Boz]

Just think, if Red had stuck with Scarlet 1.0 they would (in theory) be shipping about now.

 

[killacam]

I think Red should consider coming out with a micro 4/3" Scarlet. There seems to be enough room between the $2500 2/3" Scarlet brain and the $7000 S35 brain to position a $4500-5000 4/3 brain.

 

[Nitsuj]

Another thing that is hurting Red is the recorders coming out. The nanoFlash and the Ki-Pro will be awesome additions to low cost cameras. If the GH1 gets HDMI out then the Scarlet wouldn't even be a blip on a lot of screens. If the Scarlet had been pushed out earlier then they would have trumped the competition. The problem is now they are having to push out their product at a high price point to cover the costs of their production because they are new players in the game. If Red wants to compete I think they are going to have to drop their price point considerably and take a loss in the short term.

 

[AdrianF]

It's funny that people are signing a petition for a camera that isn't even on sale yet in most of the world. ;-)

Absolutely. Wouldn't a list of known issues, put forward in a month or so once the cameras and post workflow have been more widely tested, be a bit more effective? Just a thought.

I think Red should consider coming out with a micro 4/3" Scarlet. There seems to be enough room between the $2500 2/3" Scarlet brain and the $7000 S35 brain to position a $4500-5000 4/3 brain.

This has already been thrashed out over at reduser. It doesn't look very likely but who knows? I would like to see a 4/3 mount for the 2/3" Scarlet, in fact, this where this camera could have the biggest identity crisis and the GH1 could potentially hurt the sales. The huge lens choices available make the GH1 a very attractive alternative for low budget 16mm shooting, which is where I see the Scarlet sitting.

 

[asdfyoyoyo]

Wouldn't a list of known issues, put forward in a month or so once the cameras and post workflow have been more widely tested, be a bit more effective? Just a thought.

Why wait? The issues being addressed are things that we already know we want improved. The 17mbps AVCHD codec is too weak for 1080p, nobody wants to deal with 24in60 pulldown, and we would all benefit from live monitoring, preferably HDMI-out.

I'd rather be letting Panny know this now, instead of waiting til after it's released. This way Panny has a chance to deliver a powerhouse of a camera.

 

[AdrianF]

I'd rather be letting Panny know this now, instead of waiting til after it's released. This way Panny has a chance to deliver a powerhouse of a camera.

The cameras should be here within the next couple of weeks, so they will be what they are when they arrive. Maybe they will have a firmware update or Panny will release one in time. Either way, I just feel that this petition would have more weight behind it if it is backed by the findings of a broad spectrum of users, who've all had hands on experience with the cameras.

 

[Nighthawk]

The cameras should be here within the next couple of weeks, so they will be what they are when they arrive. Maybe they will have a firmware update or Panny will release one in time. Either way, I just feel that this petition would have more weight behind it if it is backed by the findings of a broad spectrum of users, who've all had hands on experience with the cameras.

You're probably right and I'm sure that it's inevitable that there will be that ongoing feedback from users as things progress but a nice start to whatever changes Panny is willing to do would be to plop this petition on somebody's desk with a link to this International forum and other interested groups just to see the level of discussion this cam has generated. Fine folk like Barry Green and Philip Bloom have had a chance to voice their concerns. This would be our turn. If it isn't quite enough for now then the hands on experience you mention might, just might, push it over the top. 2 cents.

 

[shzr]

You're probably right and I'm sure that it's inevitable that there will be that ongoing feedback from users as things progress but a nice start to whatever changes Panny is willing to do would be to plop this petition on somebody's desk with a link to this International forum and other interested groups just to see the level of discussion this cam has generated. Fine folk like Barry Green and Philip Bloom have had a chance to voice their concerns. This would be our turn. If it isn't quite enough for now then the hands on experience you mention might, just might, push it over the top. 2 cents.

Panasonic better add some more value to the GH1 since they are releasing the GF1. The updates in the petition would do the job.

I wonder if the delay in releasing the GH1 in the US has anything to do w/ the GF1 and/or updates.