Panning question, 24pA vs. 24p question

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swag21

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Ok my first question is how to avoid the breakup that is associated with panning on the DVX? Adjust the shutter speed? Pan slower?

My second question is what is the difference between 24pA and just 24p? I was told a while back that 24p advanced is for FCP, while 24p is for Avid, is this true?
 
I assume you're meaning the 24p judder? Yes, pan slower, or follow a moving object which appears stationary in the picture. That's how cinematographers working with 24 fps film do it.

Though, a slower shutter speed will help, but the slower you make the shutter, the less "film-like" the motion will aopear. You need SOME of the judder.

The continuing and ever-evolving myths concerning 24p never cease to amaze me.

The only difference between the two is, when extra fields are added in order to conform the frame rate to 60i (needed for recording to tape), they're added in a slightly different order. You will not, once you remove the pulldown and extract the original 24p frames, see any difference between the two, not in quality, not in motion, not in judder. When shooting, treat and move the camera exactly the same way.

Someone probably told you that 24pA was "for FCP" because FCP can only remove 24pA during capture, not 24p standard, whereas Avid (now) can remove either pulldown during capture.

But you can still use 24p standard with FCP. If you want to edit in native 24p (which you should), you can remove the standard pulldown using Cinema Tools, which comes free with FCP.

You can use, as I said, either pulldown with Avid -- or with any other NLE which edits 24p -- and still edit in native 24p with no extra work either way.
 
Please define "breakup."

I have heard lots of people complain because their cameras are "blurry" when they pan. Well, what do you expect. If every frame was pin sharp during a pan, it would look quite strange indeed. Motion blur during panning is to be expected, it's natural, like how the eye sees.

If you are talking about judder, than follow the advice of the American Cinematographer's manual, and pan so that it takes an object 7 seconds to move from one side of the frame to the other. That's a slow pan, indeed.
 
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