Barry_Green
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I'd rather they just ignore the whole DSLR thing, and put the chip and lens mount in a regular video camera. Why reinvent the entire wheel, when all you have to do is chop off the lens and shove the chip in there? :engel017:
Panasonic GH5?
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Peter J. DeCrescenzo
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Which is why god she invented WD40! 
couldn't agree more - all this pissing about when all we want is a small form factor proper featured camcorder with a 4/3 sensor - The 1st to do this will have a winner- its as if they all know this is the answer but formed a pact to never discuss this holy grail of products!
aghhhhh - someone sort it out now!!
Martti Ekstrand
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Or think totally outside the box. How 'bout this
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webap...Id=370993&catGroupId=34402&surfModel=AG-HMR10
and then this but with a 4/3" sensor and the micro Four Third mount
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webap...=370997&catGroupId=112502&surfModel=AG-HCK10G
and then we can all customize the rig around them exactly to our own whims and preferences
Ben_B
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As always.....
It's a digitally timed rice cooker that shoots AVCHD with B frames to SDHC and/or DVCPro HD to p2...diff models available.
And yes I realize I didn't chop off the full lens...I left extra room for all the magic smoke needed to make the thing work.
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I've had the GH1 for 4 months now so if Panasonic releases it in February it won't affect me at all and the US date would be around April. Still that February date is for the new lenses and although that could also mean a new camera, I wont be surprised if nothing gets released on that date.
I do believe that it would be smart if Panasonic updates features that they know can be updated before what ever Sony releases. If you think about it, the Panasonic G1 is basically an updated, interchangeable lens version of the Sony R1. It's only natural for Sony to want to get back into this market now that they see that Panasonic and Olympus is getting a lot of success.
Anyway, I can't wait to see the next update for the GH and the 5D series.
I do believe that it would be smart if Panasonic updates features that they know can be updated before what ever Sony releases. If you think about it, the Panasonic G1 is basically an updated, interchangeable lens version of the Sony R1. It's only natural for Sony to want to get back into this market now that they see that Panasonic and Olympus is getting a lot of success.
Anyway, I can't wait to see the next update for the GH and the 5D series.
Peter J. DeCrescenzo
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As another follow-on to Kholi's post, it's funny to imagine how Sony will probably figure out how to "screw up" their first entry into the HD video-capable DSLR product space.
Although Sony makes a lot of great products, they also seem to make some amazing goofs along the way.
My favorite is the consistently below-average audio performance of their prosumer cams. It would only cost them pennies per cam to improve it, but somehow they just can't help themselves! ;-)
It's actually kinda of fascinating watching the manufacturers seemingly going out of their way to insure they include at least something dumb in everything they make. Bless them.
Although Sony makes a lot of great products, they also seem to make some amazing goofs along the way.
My favorite is the consistently below-average audio performance of their prosumer cams. It would only cost them pennies per cam to improve it, but somehow they just can't help themselves! ;-)
It's actually kinda of fascinating watching the manufacturers seemingly going out of their way to insure they include at least something dumb in everything they make. Bless them.
ydgmdlu
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Are you prepared to pay at least $5000 (probably much more) for such a product?
ydgmdlu
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How many times have you posted that, by now? I'm just curious...As always.....
It's a digitally timed rice cooker that shoots AVCHD with B frames to SDHC and/or DVCPro HD to p2...diff models available.
And yes I realize I didn't chop off the full lens...I left extra room for all the magic smoke needed to make the thing work.
Barry_Green
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I am. Standing in line, credit card waiting. I bought an HPX170 at around $5k, you think I wouldn't spend $5k for the same camera but with built-in shallow DOF and interchangeable lenses? That's the no-brainer of the week, right there...
ydgmdlu
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Well, we know you are, Mr. Super-Early RED Adopter Who Sold His RED Package Before It Got Much Use And Now He Wants a Scarlet!
Peter J. DeCrescenzo
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The Barry Greens of the world (there's more than 1 of them?) will gladly pay >$5K for such a cam, and that's cool.
But that's why I keep advocating for a DSLR form factor cam with just a very few relatively minor & cheap to implement improvements in their A/V capabilities: To keep the cost down!
Martti Ekstrand
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Ditto. But I'll just take a invoice.
I'm with Barry- 5k is totally worth it for a cam like that- if they had one right now, I'd buy it without thinking.
As for more usable A/V qualities in DSLR form- I'd love that, too. But why would they want to do that- then we wouldn't buy their HPXs!
Ben_B
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I dunno...how many different threads have we had talking about the same thing over and over again where this has been relevant?
Peter J. DeCrescenzo
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My plan going forward is to own inexpensive (gear), and then rent expensive (gear) on an as-needed basis.
Of course, I don't advocate this for anyone contemplating buying my like-new slightly-used DSR-450WSL -- an excellent value for those who require its features. ;-)
Of course, I don't advocate this for anyone contemplating buying my like-new slightly-used DSR-450WSL -- an excellent value for those who require its features. ;-)
Peter J. DeCrescenzo
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Hi Ben: Please keep re-posting that graphic! It never gets old!
There's a slight chance that the manufacturers might notice thousands & thousands of posts in which we whine about the shortcomings of current cams. Even if it's only a slight chance, it's well worth it if it has even the slightest positive affect on the design of their subsequent products. The more posts the better!*
* Plus it's good for DVXuser's adv revenue, and there's nothing wrong with that!
Chamber005
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I'm not a tech guy, but is mbps just the "robustness" of the codec? I see a dramatic improvement in image quality (less noise) from 5 to 12 to 17 to 24 mbps on my cam. Why is that?
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