EVA1: Panasonic AU-EVA1! Announcement and latest updates

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J.Brown said:
There's no shortage of great cameras these days so I see little excitement to be had from new ones unless there's some breakthrough functions and quality within.
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Not true. You forget price point. If Ferrari's latest model cost $50,000 that would be big news. Cameras are getting better and better. And prices are moderating in many cases. Compare footage between today's $10,000 camera to that of even 10 years ago.
 
scottfs said:
Not true. You forget price point. If Ferrari's latest model cost $50,000 that would be big news. Cameras are getting better and better. And prices are moderating in many cases. Compare footage between today's $10,000 camera to that of even 10 years ago.
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I see no camera released this year at about the same price point as the FS7 with as a complete feature set and that camera is three years old so little excitement to be had by this camera, or any other.

Recently I had the chance to play with Eva 1 for while and it does lack certain quality and functionality I'd appreciate and sure not better than the FS7.
 
I've worked a lot with the FS7 last year, and I was never happy with it. I hated it's convoluted menu system, color grading was always painful, its colors were very lacking, and I hated its plasticy look. I honestly think that every major camera this year (Ursa Mini Pro, C200, & EVA1) all produce a far superior image to Sony's FS line of cameras.
 
Camera makers shift their market strategies all,the time. Nikon csmemo,with a great little camera, the Nikon 1, based in a great little 1-inch sensor, then dropped the EF tire line after two years.

Panasonic entered the video/Cinema medium priced camera market with the AF100, then dropped,it after a few years, no AF200"upgrade, then after the AF100 was officially discontinued, the EavA1 was announced a year later...

So marketing strategies depend on camera sales -- that is the bottom line. :violin:

Cheers
 
Bob Loblaw said:
I've worked a lot with the FS7 last year, and I was never happy with it. I hated it's convoluted menu system, color grading was always painful, its colors were very lacking, and I hated its plasticy look. I honestly think that every major camera this year (Ursa Mini Pro, C200, & EVA1) all produce a far superior image to Sony's FS line of cameras.
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I agree with everything you said about the FS7. Had one and sold after being tired of dealing with it. But complain about video look and plasticy look from the FS7 after looking at those EVA1 demos? This is exactly my problem with some of the shots in the EVA1 demos. I think the C200, FS5, FS7, EVA1 etc are all on pair. They put out basically the same level of image. You just need to choose the features that are more important for you.
 
For myself, I have never liked the look of Sony color and I understand that everyone has a preference about such things. If I were going to defect from Panny color, Canon would be my choice. I'm sure many of you Sony owners can make your cameras sing, but it always seems forced, nothing natural about it. Not trying to troll on this, some people like Chevy more for than Ford; they both will get you where you are going.
 
Ive been using cam ops with C300 mk2's a lot lately, but used a couple guys with FS7's last week on a multi cam shoot,
all footage from both C300's and FS7's was 4K log, shoots were very similar in style and content
not sure what it is about the FS7 but I have to agree, the images we got just weren't as satisfying, colours looked a bit off, It wouldn't be my first choice next time,
 
Agreed. Even their own comments about the clip say it is useless. "This was shot on the go as we were only able to get a short hands-on on the camera". I.e. we had no time with the camera to figure out how to use it to its best ability.
 
scottfs said:
For the record, Panasonic's marketing strategy was brilliant. Just look at the posts on this forum. Closing in on 300 pages of posts before the camera has sold one unit. You want proof? Go back 50 years and study Ford's marketing of the 1965 Mustang. It led to the best-selling car up to that point. Sell the sizzle...
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Not gonna argue with you on that one. :smile:
 
And Mitch (nor Tillerson) is not Denying the Claim about "MORONS" (LOL!!!) misusing the product! Can't wait to see additional footage by DP's Like Noel (or other forum members) that know how to use the product!!!
 
Well, cameras in general. You have to be good at your craft...so good you can confidentally get behind the wheel of a new tool and competently use it right away regardless of having never used it before, while quickly acclamating to its quirks. That’s what the preproduction demo films showed me more than anything: experienced filmmakers could use EVA1 without significant training wheels and still put out decent product for a client efficiently. A competent tool helps, and Panasonic obviously knows how to build one.
 
Danilo Del Tufo said:
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And the video is gone!

There seems to be some serious damage control going on. All these videos disappearing and being wacked. I understand the motivation. But will they be able to still do damage control once the camera is out and in the hands of people? I doubt it. They have no grounds to sensor it under law. The camera will look the way it will look. Inevitably we will have bad footage from it out there. Nothing can be done about it.

90% of the people who will buy the camera won't be as talented as Roger Deakins and I'm being generous. So bad footage is a given. Might as well accept it now. It will be out there. If the camera needs lots of talent to get great footage out of prepare for an avalanche of bad footage once it's selling. If it's easy to get great footage out of it, then we will have lots of great footage to see. It's a natural process. No point in fighting it. The camera is what it is.
 
Sttratos said:
And the video is gone!

There seems to be some serious damage control going on. All these videos disappearing and being wacked. I understand the motivation. But will they be able to still do damage control once the camera is out and in the hands of people? I doubt it. They have no grounds to sensor it under law. The camera will look the way it will look. Inevitably we will have bad footage from it out there. Nothing can be done about it.

90% of the people who will buy the camera won't be as talented as Roger Deakins and I'm being generous. So bad footage is a given. Might as well accept it now. It will be out there. If the camera needs lots of talent to get great footage out of prepare for an avalanche of bad footage once it's selling. If it's easy to get great footage out of it, then we will have lots of great footage to see. It's a natural process. No point in fighting it. The camera is what it is.
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So your point is some people are good at things and others bad? OK........

And unless it was a wordplay exercise, it's censor ("for the purpose of suppressing parts deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds"), not the image-capture part of the camera.

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