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Osslund said:
Don't you find it interesting that all images of this camera just shows one side? The right hand side isn't clearly shown anywhere? Maybe it's unfinished?
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Watch all of the Mitch interview videos on the various sites, the right side of the camera is shown several times.
 
Here is an off the cuff video with Mitch Gross at Cinegear 2017
Disclaimer: On Camera mic used... lots of wind noise :(

 
Osslund said:
But why no real product images as good as the ones from the other side?
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Ever hear of the dumb side and smart side of a camera? The dumb side on the C700 is arguably more interesting than the smart side. The dumb side of the EVA1, from what I saw, is really uneventful, there isn't much to look at. A handle, perhaps a covered jack or two, that's about it. All of the action and obviously the features that The Mitch and Co. want to show are located on the smart side of the camera. Perhaps the dumb side isn't final yet so they don't want to highlight it? Remember, the camera is not totally finalized yet.
 
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I don't understand the "camera superiority complex" that so many in our business have? I have never gotten it. The way I look at it, the more kick ass cameras on the market, the better it is for us, the people who buy and use them, a wealth of riches is always better than slim pickings. I hope the EVA1, the C200 and whatever Sony answer with are all amazing, fully featured, incredibly great tools that redefine how many cool features and great image creation ability you can buy for under $10,000.00. You'd think the whole, "Nyah, nyah, my camera is better than your camera" mentality would have faded in about, what, fifth grade? What is the mindset that seems to wrap up a person's self worth and personal identity in the tool that they buy to use for work?

I never see carpenters on construction sites bragging about how their circular saw is so much better than the other guys circular saw? Maybe they do nowadays, I have not worked construction since I was a kid with my Dad. It seems to be an offshoot of the computer nerd mentality of Macs vs. PCs and processor speed and how cool the LED case lights are that is a facsimile of how guys used to be about cars from the post war era until about the mid 1980s. It seems to be a guy thing, I rarely see women do it and it seems as if many people wrap up their identity in an inanimate plastic and metal box full of electronics. Baffling and sad when you think about it. Any of us who are talented can take any camera made in the past ten years and shoot a feature with it and make it look good. So it can't be that the camera makes you a better operator/cinematographer. It has to be a deep seated psychological issue with people who have nothing to rally around or perform tribalism with?

Anyway, back to the EVA1, I am becoming more and more excited by the possibilities this camera represents. I can't wait to see some footage from it.
 
Proprietary connector, but, Panasonic said it's already working with well-established third-party accessory makers. Also, if you have an EVF or LCD (like me and my SmallHD or Atomos) it can be fed via the HDMI or SDI. So, not a big deal.
 
Thomas Smet said:
The 2700 also used 3 CCD 2/3" 1280x720 sensors with pixel shifting so just about as opposite of a GH4 as you could possibly get even if they are made by the same manufacturer. Darn good camera but that sensor is such a complete opposite to the sensor in the GH4. I would not try to match those two cameras to save my life. About the only thing they have in common is the money from the sales of both camera went to Panasonic. Thats pretty much where the similarities end.
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I own a few 2700's and unless someone can show me some documentation from Panasonic to the contrary, to my knowledge they do NOT use pixel shifting. They are 1280x720P chips. You may be confusing pixel shifting with the cameras ability to do an internal up-convert to 1080.
 
Puredrifting, spot on. I don't get the camera prejudice. I've owned Sonys, Canons and Panasonics. My cameras are tools, and the better the tool, the better it is for my shoots.
Right now, it looks like the Panasonic might - might - be a better tool than my current camera. if so, and if this can bring me more clients and is financially viable, then I'll switch. Nothing personal, it's just good business.

If this camera's codec is sound, and because it has a timecode in/out (so, so important to me), it's looking very good right now. It's clicking a lot of my needs, and I had little interest in this camera before the unveil.
 
vanvideo said:
Puredrifting, spot on. I don't get the camera prejudice. I've owned Sonys, Canons and Panasonics. My cameras are tools, and the better the tool, the better it is for my shoots.
Right now, it looks like the Panasonic might - might - be a better tool than my current camera. if so, and if this can bring me more clients and is financially viable, then I'll switch. Nothing personal, it's just good business.

If this camera's codec is sound, and because it has a timecode in/out (so, so important to me), it's looking very good right now. It's clicking a lot of my needs, and I had little interest in this camera before the unveil.
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Generally speaking , Panasonic's HAVE been better... for my own particular needs. People generally have a difficult time understanding that their own needs aren't the same as everyone else's. Need internal raw? Then obviously the C200 is the better camera... for you. Need internal 10bit 4:2:2, don't care about internal raw, and have a stack of EF lenses? Then the EVA-1 is the superior camera... for you. Taking the plunge and stepping up from the A7s ii, and would like a native mount power zoom at a reasonable price? Then the FS5 is probably the best camera of them all... for you.
 
Mike Harvey said:
Generally speaking , Panasonic's HAVE been better... for my own particular needs. People generally have a difficult time understanding that their own needs aren't the same as everyone else's. Need internal raw? Then obviously the C200 is the better camera... for you. Need internal 10bit 4:2:2, don't care about internal raw, and have a stack of EF lenses? Then the EVA-1 is the superior camera... for you. Taking the plunge and stepping up from the A7s ii, and would like a native mount power zoom at a reasonable price? Then the FS5 is probably the best camera of them all... for you.
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It's not that simple. It's more like: need internal 10bit 4:2:2 sometimes but would also take full advantage of a very solid autofocus system, while rarely needing 240fps but shooting 100-120fps more and more, and thinking dual ISO would help creatively but unsure if it will make you any money?
 
Mike Harvey said:
Mitch, I'm sitting here at work putting together one of our two new FS5s with the Sony f/4 28-135mm PZ power zoom lens (side note, these things are sweet). All the Sony power zoom lenses seem to be much more reasonably priced than their EF mount counterparts (more range for less money).

Is Panasonic talking to Leica, Olympus, or Fujinon about developing a power zoom similar to the Sony 28-135mm or 18-110 f/4's?
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I couldn't possibly comment on such a question.
 
filmguy123 said:
Mitch,

Probably a long shot, but will legacy AF100 batteries work in this camera?

LCD screen size? Also, will you still recommend the need for a 3rd party external LCD or should the in-built LCD rival the display quality of many 3rd party displays in terms of brightness, color, and resolution?

Should we expect good high ISO performance beyond the dual ISO circuity, or lower our expectations here? Excluding the Dual ISO feature, will gaining up be competitive with how well the GH5 handles gaining up?

Do you have anything to say about the quality of the in-built Pre-Amps and how competitive they may be against other cameras and other external solutions?

Would you recommend EIS always on for handheld work, or will there be the possibility of digital artifacts?

Are you excited about the quality and innovation that may be present in the EIS system, or should we set our expectations in line with past EIS systems?

Will Panasonic be artificially limiting what codec/bitrate choices are available, or will it only be limited by hardware? Put another way, is the only reason 4K 60p 10-bit 4:2:2 may or may not be included due to hardware limitations? How aggressive is Panasonic trying to be here?

Is there any focus on trying to hobble the camera so as to not cannabilize Varicam sales, or does Panasonic realize the Varicam LT feature set maintains a plenty strong draw to it's clientelle base via items like PL mount, 4:4:4, so-on-so-forth, and also has limited appeal to independent filmmakers due to it's weight, cost, and workflow?

How closely in tune with the consumer division in charge of GH5 is the Panasonic cinema division? How closely have they worked and shared resources together for this camera release (EVA1, GH5) and will they be working in tandem on future roadmap items?

Will there be any features the GH5 usurps the EVA1 on? For example, speed of mode switching, menu and interface speed, ability to use in camera LUT monitoring, etc?

Should we expect any more surprises up Panasonic's sleeve at fall, or should we set our expectations as "only further details on the currently announced specs/features" so as to not be disappointed?

Lastly, what do you think the EVA1 does particularly well that will keep it competitive post launch in the face of new competition?

Thanks for your time! :)
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Panasonic has two series of 7.2v batteries. I have to check if EVA1 will be using the same model the AF100 did. Honestly can't recall.

I'll have to check on screen size, I think it's around 3.5-4 inches. I don't know what it will really look like yet.

Gain functionality will still work well, as normally. That's basic physics and we certainly expect that people will still have use of gain as necessary.

For pre-amps I assume you're referring to the ones in the audio circuits. You can look to what we did on the GH5 and the VariCam LT to imagine what would be on the camera that is designed to land between them.

I have not seen the EIS in use so cannot comment.

We are being VERY aggressive with the functionality we are squeezing into EVA1, and the only limitations are what will fit. Those limitations came by keeping down the cost, the weight, the power draw, and the size of the camera. We shoved in and and are trying to suck out as much as possible given those parameters. We are not "hobbling" EVA1 at all. All choices are based on what I just noted. Anything else we add would mean that the camera would need to get more of one or more of the following: heavier (more guts and/or need for a heavier frame), more power hungry (go to a bigger battery), more expensive (increased processing power), bigger size (more stuff takes more room, or added items take up space).

I'm not going to comment on the inner workings of Panasonic and how we develop products. We work together. We're not enemies. What's good for one part of Panasonic is good for all parts. Now everyone go out and buy a Toughbook. ;-)

Features of GH5 v EVA1: We will be sharing more info on the features of EVA1 as we move closer to release of the camera.

As for features "hidden up our sleeves," don't be spoiling my fun. Of course there's more to the camera, but I'm not going to indicate what.

That's all for now!
 
Osslund said:
Don't you find it interesting that all images of this camera just shows one side? The right hand side isn't clearly shown anywhere? Maybe it's unfinished?
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It's only because it's the most interesting side. We had two of them at CineGear and people were free to take pictures at any angle and they did.

Hey, post #1440. That's 10 Gross!
 
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