Cheeky question to Mitch: if one was shooting a feature film with a 250k budget, would the new camera be an appropriate choice for that when it comes to features and/or image quality or would it make more sense to spend a bit more and rent a Varicam 35 or LT? :engel017:
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Mitch Gross
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Well Mr. Cheeky, such decisions are particular to the nature of the production and the requirements of the script. I would always try to go with as much camera as a production could reasonably afford. In this case that might be a VariCam LT either recording internally or sending RAW out to an onboard recorder. You could certainly do it on the new camera if you needed something small & light for the shooting style. And the new camera doesn't ship until the Fall so that may influence some decisions. Back in the day I shot a couple dozen features on no/low budgets and we used both Super-15 and 35mm in those price ranges. Later I used F900 & VariCam. So, y'know, no one right answer here.
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Mitch Gross
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Just got word that we may be able to live stream the Preview Event. Been working on this for awhile. If that can happen I'll be sure to post a link.
NorBro
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So the new camera is small and light? :laugh:
Mitch Gross
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Smaller & lighter than a VariCam LT. Said as much at NAB.
morgan_moore
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Was chatting (general) cams on Twitter.
Q. What specs are needed?
My answer.. More FPS than the directors phone.
I hope this is realised
Q. What specs are needed?
My answer.. More FPS than the directors phone.
I hope this is realised
Thank you, Mitch. This was more than enough.
I feel like the bigger the production, the more the 35 makes sense because all it's great metadata/LUT/Codecs/Dual Cards make more sense when there's a huge post-production machine operating simultaneously to the production. In that environment you're also more likely to have a PeeWee and 2575 to stick the camera on, and some well paid Camera Assistants to carry them up 5 flights of stairs without complaining. For an indie I think the LT makes much more sense.
I'm worried there won't be a reasonable priced servo zoom like the Sony 18-110mm f4 available for this camera.
I know the camera is a Cinema camera but having the option to use a servo zoom with compatible AF and IS really important
for me. The FS5 has got one and the Ursa Mini can use a variety of servo zooms and the next Canon C100/200 4k update will have one.
Zooms are a legitimate Cinematic tool just look at Barry Lyndon.
If this camera is S35 would it be possible to rehouse or provide an adaptor for the Sony 18-110 f4
that allows servo zoom, AF and IS ?
Just asking.
I know the camera is a Cinema camera but having the option to use a servo zoom with compatible AF and IS really important
for me. The FS5 has got one and the Ursa Mini can use a variety of servo zooms and the next Canon C100/200 4k update will have one.
Zooms are a legitimate Cinematic tool just look at Barry Lyndon.
If this camera is S35 would it be possible to rehouse or provide an adaptor for the Sony 18-110 f4
that allows servo zoom, AF and IS ?
Just asking.
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Wouldn't this camera, if it has an EF mount, be able to use any lens that the Ursa Mini does?
Jason R. Johnston
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Again, the Canon EF-mount CN-E 18-80mm T4.4 is a reasonably prized ENG-capable cine zoom lens for use up to Super 35, and has both AF and IS functionality (on Cinema EOS cameras).
Danilo Del Tufo
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Maybe the project was not completed yet, so Mitch can report our requests to Panasonic.
he already said "I only joined Panasonic in March and the camera was well underway and in fact pretty much locked down by the time I learned of it." - they are not going to change anything significant now unless some serious hardware/software issues emerge. if they had developed a servo-zoom for this camera, it would have shown up in the silhouette-pic, wouldn't it?
let's hope it either has the contacts on the mount necessary for powering the canon zoom or - even better - a 12V power out for powering it and other lenses/accessoires (fujinon ?), or, as a last resort, batteries with a higher voltage than 7.2V, so some third-party-batteries (swit, idx) could power a servo-zoom via cable. i wouldn't count on it, though - I guess it either has the contacts on the mount or nothing at all.
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Thanks JR does this mean the servo, AF and IS would work on any new Panasonic S35 camera ?
Thanks !
NorBro
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The servo may work if the body can power the lens, which it probably will be able to as apertures from lenses will need to be electronically changed, but considering AF and Auto-Iris and IS don't work on some of Canon's DSLRs, probably no for any other camera besides a Cinema EOS body.
Jason R. Johnston
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I don't know what would work on any new Panasonic S35 camera. Maybe I'll have an idea in just under two weeks.
But, as I said, the Canon lens has AF and IS functionality on Canon Cinema EOS cameras...cameras you can buy right now, just like the lens. Personally I don't use AF, nor do I use IS a whole lot in anything but docu, but I would find the servo zoom useful in certain scenarios.
Danilo Del Tufo
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12 days until CineGear...
digitalinnovations
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Well great...now what will Mitch post today?!
puredrifting
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11.75 days until Cine Gear?
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