Panasonic announces UX180 and UX90 pricing & availability

Thanks.. I guess my only issue if the level of clarity of the videos between the GH4 and UX90.. Maybe it's because I have metabones speedbooster on GH4 so I'm getting another level of fstop to help with low lighting but I just cant figure out how to get that clarity with the camcorders.
 
Thanks again Barry. The HC-X1 or UX180 may be able to fill several voids I have - 4k, long zoom and a better event camera in addition. If the old batteries still work even better! Having an easy to use camera with a wide lens and 120fps is also great.
I may doing something I've cautiously not done before and buy one at release if they do come available before next year.

That's good news that it's ISO is that good. 1" seems like a reasonable size for lowish light and affordable zoom lenses.
 
The restaurant had very little lighting and I noticed that the noise on the LCD screen wasn't to my liking when shooting in 4K 30p. For the performances, I decided to just shoot it in 1080p30. Would have done 60p but since the bit rate was the same regardless and since I was on a tripod, I figured I might as well shoot it in 30p. The Shutter was set to 60. Everything was basically fully automatic.

 

Fantastic find. To the person who had pointed out that there wasn't a mention of super slo-mo in some of the materials -- it's mentioned here.
The 100 lux shot was pretty nice looking, and the stabilization looks great, though I'm unlikely to shoot in HD....

Phil's review is up as well, fwiw: https://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2016/12/07/the-panasonic-hc-x1-video-review/
Looks like a couple of shots got some over-exposed clouds.
 
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We also found out that the HXC-X1 and UX180 are really the same camera with just the SDI and timecode connectors different and of course there will likely be warranty differences too.
 
Fantastic find. To the person who had pointed out that there wasn't a mention of super slo-mo in some of the materials -- it's mentioned here.
The 100 lux shot was pretty nice looking, and the stabilization looks great, though I'm unlikely to shoot in HD....

Phil's review is up as well, fwiw: https://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2016/12/07/the-panasonic-hc-x1-video-review/
Looks like a couple of shots got some over-exposed clouds.

Good find yourself... but I am confused by his review... at 1:10 he mentions how fast the autofocus is and it actually seems slow?

Then at 1:30 for the autofocus tracking does that guy not seem to lose focus at the very end before the cut? Same with the next shot?

Was hoping for more A/B comparison shots and a bit more depth... but I guess all that should be coming soon.
 
Good find yourself... but I am confused by his review... at 1:10 he mentions how fast the autofocus is and it actually seems slow?

I think the remark was really more about how smooth it was -- if I remember correctly, there are actually settings for how fast you want AF to react to changes, so I'm not going to get too hung up about that. And as for whether AF was hunting at the end of clips ... I'm an awful judge, so I'm just going to keep my mouth shut and nod silently ;/

Was hoping for more A/B comparison shots and a bit more depth... but I guess all that should be coming soon.

Yeah, it was supposed to be all in 4k too, and I don't seem to get that option, which is disappointing. And I agree, this review was a lot less in-depth than the DVX200 review was. Not a lot of dissection about the color shifting (you can see in the clouds in a number of places, as well as the sparkling on the blue pants at the far left at 3:10). I've not the experience to tell what's going on there, but it does seem like I'll need to be careful with highlights blowing out. All that said, I note he liked filmlike3, and hated cine-like V, and so I'm forced into assuming he's shooting in some high dynamic range environments.
 
We also found out that the HXC-X1 and UX180 are really the same camera with just the SDI and timecode connectors different and of course there will likely be warranty differences too.

I've been following this thread as closely as possible but I didn't realize that we knew for sure these 2 cams had the same sensor. Given the UX 90 and the UX 180 do not, I was concerned about that. SDI and timecode are not an issue for me so of we are certain about these 2 things being the only difference, I can see an HC-X1 in my future.

Ron, re warranties in your previous post. Fwiw in my contact with 2 different Panasonic dealers here in Vancouver both have emphasized that Panasonic Canada does not necessarily follow suit with the US counterpart. This in response to my queries around the DVX 200 and the current rebate in the US. Here in Canada, its a free bag, battery and charger which I believe the US previously had. Rebates and warranties are of course different things but the point being the apparent policy.

I've also been unable to find out anything from these dealers about either the HCX1 or the UX 180. Almost as if they only want to push what they can sell today. Not sure how helpful your Canadian sources may be but any info you may be able to pass on about either of these and their availability/price up here would be appreciated. I do see Vistek has prices listed at 4,299.00 and 4999.00 respectively.
 
The interview on Newshooter http://www.newsshooter.com/with Holden rep and Panasonic rep state clearly the HC-X1 and UX180 are the same camera other than the SDI and Timecode connections. Have not talked to local Panasonic dealers yet so cannot answer any of your queries but I have Vistek and Henrys in town that I will ask now.
 
The interview on Newshooter http://www.newsshooter.com/with Holden rep and Panasonic rep state clearly the HC-X1 and UX180 are the same camera other than the SDI and Timecode connections. Have not talked to local Panasonic dealers yet so cannot answer any of your queries but I have Vistek and Henrys in town that I will ask now.

Yeah -- Vistek mentions Dec 15th for the HC-X1, same as Terry's date, while the UX180 is down for New Year's Day (which matches pretty well with "end of year" we're hearing elsewhere). When I talked to Samy's (which is closer to where I live), they said they hadn't been given a date, and BHPhoto said much the same (for both cameras). Panasonic's own site says "Estimated Ship Date: December 5th" which I pointed out to them yesterday was maybe not quite right. While I would have preferred that the issue was the availability date being preceded by the term "Pre-Order", it seems more likely that it's just missing a '1' in front of the "5" (they told me it would "be corrected" but didn't specify in what way :sigh: ).

Too bad. I would have liked to have used either camera at the Basilica downtown on the 12th, because I do believe the wide angle lens and better low-light would capture the ambience so much better than last year's attempt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tCrw0P3dKU&t=35m38s and on the 18th I believe I'm doing a much more extensive quartet recording, but the likelihood that I can get my hands on the camera AND learn to use it well enough by then is ... poor. Definitely a 1st-world problem, but frustrating anyway.
 
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