TimTheFoolMan
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...but this changing ISO speeds all day long comes from stills/VDSLR shooters. I've always relied on ND filters and lighting for exposure control.
I will never understand this one!
How does it slow you down?
You are absolutely correct... I dont shoot much run and gun but I do understand a requirement when working in variable lighting conditions and working quickly.
It just seems to me that the base assumption is that as a run and gunner... you are always shooting wide open and that is why you need to tweak the ISO to get an exposure in and under the wide open stop. Not the entire range on the lens. Now that just seems weird to me.
The ISO setups work for ALL the stops in a lens. eg f2 thru f16 (for the purpose of this discussion).
Thats 7 whole stops. Each stop is light transmission factor of 2 so that is an incredible range of exposure control just on the aperture and forgetting the other exposure controls available on the camera ( ND wheel, shutter angle, shutter speed, frame speed)
If one manages (chooses) the 3 preset ISO settings intelligently with consideration of lighting likelihoods...that permits a minimum of 21 stops of instantly accessible exposure control without even going near ND wheel, shutter angle, shutter speed, frame speed.
Thats why I dont get it.
You are absolutely correct...
It just seems to me that the base assumption is that as a run and gunner... you are always shooting wide open and that is why you need to tweak the ISO to get an exposure in and under the wide open stop. Not the entire range on the lens. Now that just seems weird to me.
Not so. You want to be at 4 or better lots of times, because you can't always predict where your subject will move and you want reasonably deep focus. Imagine standing on the deck of a boat in bright sunlight, you want to give the ISO preference as a tool for exposure so as to limit noise, so you're at 200 with the ND to get to a stop you like. The next minute you're below deck and are at 400 and you want to stay at at least a 4, but what if it's too dark? You open all the way up and the guy in the background talking to your subject is soft. Or, you go to 800, because you can't get to 500 or 600 which would have done the trick with less noise without digging into menus. A minute later you're in the hold and want to be at 1200 to have a stop you like, but your next preset is 1600.
It's not about not being intelligent enough to wisely choose your 3 preset ISO's, it's about wanting to have options on the fly when you're constantly having to make snap decisions and quickly balance in the moment. What I don't think you're getting is that this type of shooting is a constant juggling act, and with the current wheel configuration one of the balls is always just beyond reach. The ND's are a tool, but why give me a huge range of ISO increments with no fast access to them? Shutter is not a useful tool to adjust exposure in a run & gun situation, or any situation really. I can't think of a single instance when I wanted fast access to shutter speed, but I can think of scores of times when I wanted to roll the wheel fast to poke around between ISO, stop & ND to get to a shot I like.
I respect the guys who shoot in controlled locations, wouldn't tell them what tools they do or don't need to do their jobs, think you have to give the guys the who do this day in and out the benefit of the doubt that they know what they're asking for.
I will never understand this one!
How does it slow you down?
Maybe the proper configuration for ISO on toggle mimics the white balance toggle (e.g., Preset A 400; Preset B 800; Position Three, Variable).
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1. Focus Zoom 1:1
2. Dialing through all ISO values, not just 3 at a time.
Those are really my only 2 real issues I have shooting on my AF100. While I'd like some of the other things mentioned, these two aggravate me EVERY time I shoot. I don't want to change my Iris when I have the DoF I am looking for. And the combination between ND and 3 ISO values is a pain in the neck trying to dial in perfect when I really just want to bump the ISO a tiny bit.
Or, you go to 800, because you can't get to 500 or 600 which would have done the trick with less noise without digging into menus.