There's a ton of photographers using 4K video and then picking out frames to use as photos.
Panasonic 4K GH4 possibly coming next Spring...
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There's a ton of photographers using 4K video and then picking out frames to use as photos.
Then it would likely cost $5K to start, and would not take still photos.
I do agree that Panasonic needs a prosumer 10-bit 4:2:2 AF200 camera ASAP, but at least this GH4 sounds like a good stop-gap while they get their act together.
An AF200 next year, with newer sensor tech, would then be the upgrade solution for all the GH4 video shooters.
Elvis Deane
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If those are for rails, they win all of my money. But they look a bit small. Or maybe the massive size of the input box is fooling my brain into thinking it's too small.
Ted Ramasola
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Looks like the Camera body designer and the input box designer are NOT friends.
Jaime Valles
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I wonder if the GH4 will use the same batteries as the GH3???
They look to be at the right height and width apart... the smaller size may be a "female" to a threaded rod. Or it may be something completely of their own design. We'll find out soon enough.
snowblindfilm
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By the time you add all the extras for GH4, that make is actually work as a video camera you are spending additional $1500-$2000. To be honest I would rather spend 5K, with ergonomics of a video camera vs dslr crap. I like buttons, instead of menu driven touch screens. That is why I still prefer to grab Canon XF100, I can switch things on the fly by pressing one button, and not dig through entire menu. I mean honestly if someone would merge BM Cinema Camera and put it into AF100 body I would buy it for 5K for sure. BMCC has a great IQ, but it's like trying to drive a car with steering and accelerator up front, but clutch and brake in a back seat. AF100 has great ergonomics, but it majorly lacks in IQ.
John Caballero
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It has a more powerful processor so the battery might need more strength? We'll know in a few hours.
Who uses any camera without a ton of rigging these days though? It has the strength of being super portable, and actual ergonomics compared the BMCC box.
pulpfiction007
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It's in fellas
http://www.43rumors.com/full-panasonic-gh4-press-text/
http://www.43rumors.com/full-panasonic-gh4-press-text/
Holy moly, this thing is a monster!*1 It seems like Panasonic really threw the kitchen sink at this one.*2 Oh, I've also never seen a press release with more asterisks and notes than this one. *3 That's a lot to process...
*1 Not literally, but figuratively
*2 Except built-in ND
*3 Really, though
*1 Not literally, but figuratively
*2 Except built-in ND
*3 Really, though
roxics
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Wow! Looks awesome.
I knew it was not realisitic to expect 10bit 4:2:2 in camera recording. Would have been nice. But the option to do it externally is great. There is seriously nothing to complain about here.
I too am interested in what the dymanic range will be and also the price. I think we'll have to wait till it's in users hands for the former but hopefully we get the price soon.
I knew it was not realisitic to expect 10bit 4:2:2 in camera recording. Would have been nice. But the option to do it externally is great. There is seriously nothing to complain about here.
I too am interested in what the dymanic range will be and also the price. I think we'll have to wait till it's in users hands for the former but hopefully we get the price soon.
Jaime Valles
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My only concern is the bitrate at 4K and QHD is only 100Mbps. I hope that's enough to keep away the appearance of mud...
Thomas Smet
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Killer camera for the price! I know some are going to wish it had this or that but honestly you have to be in heaven right now for what you will get for less than $2,000.00.
100mbps for 4k should be enough. Remember the pixels are so small that is really becomes that much harder to see artifacts. It is also 4x higher than the 24mbps normal mode on the GH3 which is still a great looking format. Sure 100mbps may not be 100% perfect but I think it will be pretty darn solid. For a first 4k camera for many of you it will be a phenomenal experience and hard to judge critically.
200mbps Intra for 1080p is just amazing. Yeah it isn't 4:2:2 or better yet 4:4:4 but it is still virtually at the compression level of ProRes. Add some chroma resampling and you are in business. Still not good enough then shoot 4K and down convert to a darn good looking 1080p or 2k at 4:4:4 (my desired choice of shooting with this camera and a method used by a lot of Hollywood FX movies)
One area I'm just waiting for people to get nasty about is the crop mode for 4k shooting. Yes it gets a bit longer. 2.3x crop mode. A bit of a bummer but not when you consider the tradeoff that is made. Instead of binning the slightly larger resolution sensor Panasonic has finally taken a 1:1 pixel readout at 4k for a pristine clean 4k frame. Getting wide shots may be a bit tougher but what we gain in clean video will be a huge advantage and worth the tradeoff. I for one am very happy about this. Considering my main lens is the 25mm f1.4 I know I could always go wider anyway. Not sure I want to go back to the 20mm for the same FOV but there are other options.
100mbps for 4k should be enough. Remember the pixels are so small that is really becomes that much harder to see artifacts. It is also 4x higher than the 24mbps normal mode on the GH3 which is still a great looking format. Sure 100mbps may not be 100% perfect but I think it will be pretty darn solid. For a first 4k camera for many of you it will be a phenomenal experience and hard to judge critically.
200mbps Intra for 1080p is just amazing. Yeah it isn't 4:2:2 or better yet 4:4:4 but it is still virtually at the compression level of ProRes. Add some chroma resampling and you are in business. Still not good enough then shoot 4K and down convert to a darn good looking 1080p or 2k at 4:4:4 (my desired choice of shooting with this camera and a method used by a lot of Hollywood FX movies)
One area I'm just waiting for people to get nasty about is the crop mode for 4k shooting. Yes it gets a bit longer. 2.3x crop mode. A bit of a bummer but not when you consider the tradeoff that is made. Instead of binning the slightly larger resolution sensor Panasonic has finally taken a 1:1 pixel readout at 4k for a pristine clean 4k frame. Getting wide shots may be a bit tougher but what we gain in clean video will be a huge advantage and worth the tradeoff. I for one am very happy about this. Considering my main lens is the 25mm f1.4 I know I could always go wider anyway. Not sure I want to go back to the 20mm for the same FOV but there are other options.