Outgrowing Imovie...FCP next?

OK, just to clarify, I have recently (2 months ago) done a software update or something that has rendered my previously usable pirate copy of FCS unusable. Serves me right. Smacked wrist for me. Naughty boy!

I bought a GH1 only 2 weeks ago, so I haven't been able to import and view any footage yet, into anything, let alone edit it, so I have no first hand experience with this...

...but my understanding is that with FCS I would have to transcode everything through log and capture into ProRes before I can edit it, which is not native use like CS5 which reads AVCHD off the card into the application if you need it to, and supports 64bit architecture, and gets your graphics card to render full res HD in real time, all of which SURELY Apple will apply on their next release of FCS4, or else everybody will jump ship, I'm sure. Their timing is about 2 years behind though, it seems.

So, I could get FCS. It would mean a tiny learning curve, but also it seems like it will be frustrating with the GH13. CS5 30 day trial arrives tomorrow. Yip! yip!
 
Lucas Adamson said:
I am a qualified FCP editor. I used it all the way through a diploma in Cinematography and a degree in Film production. I like the program, but they've dropped the ball. No question about that. It seems that Adobe have been anticipating new codecs and cameras and computer technology and supporting it in advance of it's release, whereas Apple wait until stuff is out for two years, and then still don't really support, but provide a workaround! That's just s**t!
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. If it's true what several sources are stating, then FCS is currently being rewritten from ground up to make use of all new technologies and features of the latest OS X revisions. Of course that's pure speculation but it just seems unlikely that Apple will abandon that market so easily.

I work in the software industry and I know how things are working over there, and if Apple wants to catch up with current technology changes they cannot just change the existing FCP in a few weeks or months or so. That requires some major changes and probably even a major rewrite.
 
Well, I don't see how what you've said contradicts me in any way. I think we agree that Final Cut Studio absolutely must be re-written from the ground up to support all of the current formats and 64 bit CPUs and indeed GPUs, or else they will have completely lost the battle.

However, what I'm saying is that they are VERY late in doing this, as Adobe have already done that with CS5. CS5 has features that show complete compatibility with all of the current 64 bit technology, HDSLR codecs and GPU processing to speed everything up. Assuming Apple don't release FCS4 until next Spring, and assuming it's as good as we think it should be, they're over 1.5 years behind the release of BEST-SELLING tech products, and have lost a lot of customers, including the whole of the BBC, (the largest media corp in the West) who would surely have stuck with them had they been a bit more "on it".
 
Slightly amazing that you are talking about all the latest technology, 'best selling tech products', 64bit, AVCHD, GH13 and you've been unlawfully using a pirate copy of FC for so long, and repeatedly mention it publicly.
Who's going to fund the software upgrades if the software is pirated? You are criticising Apple for not keeping up, and yet you've done nothing to support FC for years.
(Spoken as someone who has their own software product pirated).
And by the way, your BBC comment is a bit of a myth, they haven't dumped FC.
 
Lucas Adamson said:
Well, I don't see how what you've said contradicts me in any way. I think we agree that Final Cut Studio absolutely must be re-written from the ground up to support all of the current formats and 64 bit CPUs and indeed GPUs, or else they will have completely lost the battle.
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Maybe I got you wrong, from your post I read that Apple has lost interest in that market and they're not willing to catch up. Nevermind.
 
chrisso said:
Slightly amazing that you are talking about all the latest technology, 'best selling tech products', 64bit, AVCHD, GH13 and you've been unlawfully using a pirate copy of FC for so long, and repeatedly mention it publicly.
Who's going to fund the software upgrades if the software is pirated? You are criticising Apple for not keeping up, and yet you've done nothing to support FC for years.
(Spoken as someone who has their own software product pirated).
And by the way, your BBC comment is a bit of a myth, they haven't dumped FC.
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You're right. Software piracy is not a good thing. However, as a film student that was also a parent, I had serious economic decisions to make, and was offered a copy of Final Cut Studio 1 and a serial number, so it was quite a simple decision for me at the time.

I don't think I can really be held responsible for Apple's economic inability to develop Final Cut though. I also haven't been supporting Adobe either, as it happens. If anything, you might as well blame the success of the iPhone for Apple's neglect of some of their Pro applications, ( I've purchased 3 since it's release.)

Now I'm in the marketplace for a software package, FCP is the obvious choice, as I am good at it already, but not the right choice, and not good value for my money.
 
Oh, and regarding the BBC, it's hardly a myth. They have bought 2000 new CS5 suites. It's in a million news articles on the web. Sure they may have some FC stuff left, but they're not waiting around for FCP8, and neither am I.
 
Lucas Adamson said:
It's in a million news articles on the web.
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We had this discussion on the forum before, and some BBC people chipped in.
All those web stories all came from the same single source - - Adobe.
Reality is they have a very mixed bag of set ups, depending on the department and the location.
 
chrisso said:
We had this discussion on the forum before, and some BBC people chipped in.
All those web stories all came from the same single source - - Adobe.
Reality is they have a very mixed bag of set ups, depending on the department and the location.
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Ah, very interesting. Thanks for that. Regardless, of those that have used both, most seem to favour CS5, though I feel that will change again when Apple eventually release the expected 64bit version with all the proper codec support, whenever that will be. I guess it is true that they bought 2000 Premiere systems, but the BBC is a giant corporation, so that's probably not a comprehensive "ditching".
 
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