Optimal settings for 30p & cine gamma?!

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Hi,

Can someone tell me what the absolute best settings are for shooting 30p with cine gamma?

I have shot with the 24pa scene file settings, just changing the 24p setting to 30p. All other settings in the scene file remain unchanged.

The result is pretty film-like in appearance, but my video is very dark when I capture it into Final Cut. To get a decent gamma output, I cook my movies in Cleaner 6 and boost the gamma. I know this isn't right, but what is?

Also, the image I get in my LCD viewfinder in the field looks spectacular: good exposure, contrast, saturation, etc. It seems that I just can't trust it to translate into the same back in the edit suite.

I'd really appreciate any help.

Incidentally, the projects I'm producing are intended for Web distribution, hence my preference to shoot in 30p. I love the image I see in my viewfinder and would like to have that quality as my final output from Final Cut, without having to do a bunch of post-processing.

Thanks in advance,

Mike
 
Re: Optimal settings for 30p & cine gamma?!

your nle monitor doesnt have setup, and im assuming is not calibrated properly. you shouldnt have to adjust the gamma at all. the lcd is pretty darn accurate. you should be judging exposure and brightness off a calibrated ntsc monitor, or calibrate your computer monitor..or simply turn the brightness on your nle monitor up a little at least to match what it looks like on a tv if thats all you have to view it off of in the nle. otherwise when you go back to an ntsc environment youll discover milky images, and too much brightness becuase you compensated the image to an uncalibrated monitor instead of the other way around.
 
Re: Optimal settings for 30p & cine gamma?!

Thanks, but my NLE monitor is calibrated. Footage from other sources looks fine. Also, my NTSC monitor is accurate. I've also tried others.

I've looked at footage of Final Cut movies with no post-processing on other monitors and it is darker than the DVX LCD shows it. I really suspect it has to do with the scene file settings.

Mike
 
Re: Optimal settings for 30p & cine gamma?!

k. good to know .. that narrows it down.:)  how does it play straight out of the camera onto a tv or monitor via composite or s-video.. is it dark or fine.. if its dark then your lcd is off, if its fine then  its just your nle or monitor.  theres nothing in the scene file settings that would make it look ok on your lcd , but not on an ntsc out. it should look the same and the only variations would be caused by the lcd or  ntsc monitor. or the off chance that the codec or ntsc out your using in your nle does some considerable gamma adjusments.
 
Re: Optimal settings for 30p & cine gamma?!

I've shot a few things in 30p. The only thing I'd suggest is check your Master ped setting. For exteriors I'm down around -5 (without set up).
 
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