Well, I learned the craft on 16 and Super 16. I have never really shot on 5D. My teacher back then told me that the 35mm film is the standard reference. I have never heard a cinematographer use the Super 35 as a reference. But good for you if you have. Anyway. This is boring.
"And um, one more thing. This thread was never about comparing the 24-105 to
the Sony 18-200. It was the Sony 18-105. Just sayin......"
Are you sleeping? Tell what the name of the tread is.
"And um, one more thing. This thread was never about comparing the 24-105 to
the Sony 18-200. It was the Sony 18-105. Just sayin......"
Are you sleeping? Tell what the name of the tread is.
I actually never said anyone was wrong....I said please FF shooters don't start
telling me I'm wrong because you are using your FF frame of reference. It took
about two posts for a FF shooter to jump in and say "you are wrong....it 'becomes'
a 33-145." This is what I was trying to avoid, because it always leads to confusion,
but I wasn't the one who stated telling people they were wrong, I just continued to
assert that in Super 35 terms, I was right....which is a fact. If only posters would have
just heeded my call to not confuse things....I made it very plain I was speaking in
Super 35 frame of reference (and not Full Frame) but some Full Frame shooter
always has to jump in and to tell me I'm wrong....when really he is not taking the
time to see what I just wrote.
Im a cinematographer. I did NOT start shooting with a 5D. The FF is NOT necessarily
the logical frame of reference for most cinematographers. When I was working as a
AC, I was not told to "give me a lens that gives the same FOV as a 50mm would on
a Full Frame camera." Because cinematographers tend to 'think' in Super 35 terms.
So my DOP would just ask me to put a 35mm on the camera. He didn't care necessarily
if it was a Full Frame lens or APSC lens (in actuality he wanted a cinema version of
one of these but that's another story) because they all look the same...35mm FOV
on a Super 35 cam. No 'crop factors' or 'Full Frame equivalents' were ever discussed on
sets, and I find that they are most common among still photogs who see the Full Frame
camera as the natural frame of reference. Actually I know some even higher end pro
photographers who see an even bigger sensor as the 'frame of reference' and refer to Full
Frame as 'cropped'
Facts are facts, and a 24-105 on Full Frame, gives roughly the same field of view
that 17-70 does on a Super 35 camera.....that is a FACT.
And um, one more thing. This thread was never about comparing the 24-105 to
the Sony 18-200. It was the Sony 18-105. Just sayin......