Once Again, no Rush in the Rock Hall of Fame

Elvin Jones was truly one of the greatest Jazz drummers of all time.

But we're not talking about the Jazz Hall of Fame here.

Rush belongs in the Hall. Period.
 
I like Rush and have most of their albums. Great music, but Geddy before he made the vocal change was massively irritating. When he used to sing in that high register, it turned off every non-musician I ever knew.

All three are superb musicians. Songwriting is solid but a little too college fiction writing class for my taste. They should definitely be in but then again, it is just a popularity contest like the Oscars, not much to do with sheer quality.

Dan
 
stephenmick said:
Elvin Jones was truly one of the greatest Jazz drummers of all time. But we're not talking about the Jazz Hall of Fame here.
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I was responding to the post prior to mine in which MattinSTL had stated, "If you ask any drummer who the best drummer of all time is/was... it will come down to Buddy Rich or Neil Peart."

For what it's worth, I think the subject of this thread is revealing: "Once Again, no Rush in the Rock Hall of Fame." The thing is, it's not the "Rock Hall of Fame;" it's the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."
 
While i wait for Motley Crue to be nominated, i have to say that i can't stand "best drummer" or best ANYTHING conversations. there is no best. i've played drums for 25 years, i'm only 33, and i can play stuff that a lot of popular drummers cannot play. popular drummers are all good. all drummers that keep good time are good. the popular ones become that way because they creatively keep time for great songwriters (even if they ARE the songwriter) every single time. Ringo, Buddy, Elvin, Tony Williams, Bozzio, Peart ....man, the list goes on.....there is no best. great drumming is all about what's right for the time and place. but you still can't pick just one.
 
For no apparent or needed reason, here's my favorite drummers off the top of my head:

1. Dave Lombardo/Paul Bostaff
2. Neil Peart
3. Tony Williams
4. Terry Bozzio
5. Tomas Haake
6. Ken Owen (Carcass)
7. Danny Carey
8. Billy Cobham

No "best", just playing styles that I like.
Anyone else have any faves?
 
Deepfocus88 said:
3. Tony Williams

8. Billy Cobham
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Tony Williams, of course, is also one of favorites. Miles certainly knew how to pick them but the fact that Williams was only 17 remains utterly astounding.

Cobham's playing on A Tribute to Jack Johnson is vital to the sound that was achieved.

I mentioned Elvin and I would add Philly Joe Jones. The sound of Miles' first quartet depended on his brushwork.

When Branford Marsalis took his early 90s group to my university, I focused on Jeff "Tain" Watts the entire concert. He's a very inventive drummer.

Rock? Keith Moon.
 
stephenmick said:
Well, at least one highly-informed individual thinks very, very highly of Neil Peart…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eubi9YI2dKE
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That is funny.


FWIW, I didn't intend this to be a discussion about the "best" of anything. That is completely subjective, and when it comes down the the musical rebellion called rock and roll, not very relevant. You can make arguments about rudimentary musicians like the Sex Pistols being in there because of their influence.

It just seems a bit odd that a band that has produced the volume and breadth of work, and been as influential as they have continuously gets the snub.
 
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