Ok guys...I know I bother you with questions that are second nature to you and probably simple as hell to answer but I have another DOOZIE! lol. I am shooting a film VERY soon and I have all the moving parts and crew together. I have on 128GB SSD Drive for my BM Hyperdeck Shuttle External Recorder and will no doubt need to dump the footage on set to keep filming. I have a Uspeed Dock for the SSD with USB 3.0 and E Sata ports. I have YET to find a sexy portable drive for the field until I came upon a 1TB Western Digital portable drive that I liked and bought. But it is a USB 3.0 not an E Sata. Can I still dump footage from the SSD via USB 3.0 Connection without losing quality?
On Location Workflow Question
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paulears
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Transfer from one device to another is a speed issue, not a quality one. USB2, Firewire, Firewire 800, eSATA, USB3 will all transfer data with 100% accuracy, so quality is exactly the same as the original file. Speed is the key. Ideally, you need speed high enough to not be a bottleneck. Do I assume you are recording in real time from the camera onto the Hyperdeck or using the dock to get into a computer? I may have misunderstood the workflow. The time issue will come in when you need to copy the data from location A to location B. This stage will take time, and while you're doing it you can't shoot. So you seem to have safety backup that you can only do after you've finished shooting. Speed isn't a huge issue then - in terms of the differences in speed - obvious stuff like the differences between the two firewire and two USB types being the key feature, I guess.
Tell us about your workflow - how you are intending to shoot - camera cards?
Tell us about your workflow - how you are intending to shoot - camera cards?
Hey Dre, we use three 120 gig Sandisk SSDs when using the Hyperdeck, two plus a backup but we usually cycle through all three while we shoot and DIT/backup, we label the SSDs and time stamp the folder for the editor and we transfer to two 1TB WD external drives so there is always two copies of the footage. As said, a fast ssd dock,firewire 800/USB3 and compatible external drives are key for quick backup.
Do try and backup everything twice for safety.
this workflow works for us but I think it gets refined on each shoot, hope that helps
Do try and backup everything twice for safety.
this workflow works for us but I think it gets refined on each shoot, hope that helps
Great info guys! Thanks so much! My workflow is going to go like this at least initially. I am recording to 128gb SSD card which will be on board the hyperdeck shuttle. I want IN THEORY to take the SSD to the docking port and dump straight into the 1TB drive via USB 3.0 if I can get away from the E Sata port. My Western Digital does NOT have an E Sata port to connect to. From what I am hearing it may be beneficial to obtain a second SSD card to avoid production interruption? And also a second backup drive. Will do that for sure. By the way...when you do your transfers are they by USB3, Esata, or HDMI connection?
You'll need a laptop between the SSD dock and the WD drive in order to communicate to the devices and create the storage bins, you can't connect anything to the Hyperdeck and transfer directly from it.
you definitely need a second SSD and I'd recommended a third for safety and really should transfer the footage to two external drives, two backups is just good drills mate but it sounds like your doing that anyway
Shooter
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Just a litle thought for you in addition to what others have advised (ie. multiple acquisition drives as well as multiple back ups)
Assumeably you are dual recording to both Hyperdeck (SSD) and on board SD Card.
You can consider that you do have a "backup" file if you manage the SD cards properly as well. (The AVCHD will stand up fine for this)
FWIW - You should do a test of your hardware pipeline....so you know exactly how long it takes to transfer 100+ GB
Assumeably you are dual recording to both Hyperdeck (SSD) and on board SD Card.
You can consider that you do have a "backup" file if you manage the SD cards properly as well. (The AVCHD will stand up fine for this)
FWIW - You should do a test of your hardware pipeline....so you know exactly how long it takes to transfer 100+ GB
Thanks Shooter & XSVPro! I will definitely look into that asap. I am curious. Though I have the external drive for uncompressed, is it feasible to shoot an indie film with the onboard cards alone and expect a usable image if I don't want to deal with the workflow issues due to timing? Because the sdxc cards can shoot 12 hours straight. I have two 64 gig cards.