old draft of rules... please disregard...

[Barry_Green]

No problem, Larry. Just not sure what the problem is?

Well, the problem is that we don't take these things lightly. We are thorough; we debate the daylights out of it in the mod forum and get all sorts of perspectives and hash it out until we think we've come up with a consensus on what will serve the membership and the festival the best.

 

[Barry_Green]

Greater restrictions can lead to higher creativity.

If someone is truly strapped with zero access to makeup or fx, then they can go watch some classic horror and hitchcock and learn to use shadows to hide things, while still having literal monsters.

Also, they could take the time to learn some basic makeup or costuming, because after all, these fests are about learning

Excellent post.

 

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Well, the problem is that we don't take these things lightly. We are thorough; we debate the daylights out of it in the mod forum and get all sorts of perspectives and hash it out until we think we've come up with a consensus on what will serve the membership and the festival the best.

And that's great, I know it's not an easy decision. It just seems that all the Mods that have posted in this thread seem to agree with the change.

I personally hope you make it.

MAH

 

[Jason Ramsey]

Michael... Chill out...

One minute, everyone is hounding us for the rules, so we try to get them out... Now this...

Just relax.. We're about to post an update to the rules.

It's easier when you aren't behind the curtain

later,
Jason

 

[Brandon Rice]

Hurry up guys!

JK!

But seriously, this has changed my plans completely... so it's best to get them out sooner than later... just a thought...

 

[Michael Anthony Horrigan]

Michael... Chill out...

One minute, everyone is hounding us for the rules, so we try to get them out... Now this...

Just relax.. We're about to post an update to the rules.

It's easier when you aren't behind the curtain

later,
Jason

Jason, if you look back in this thread I actually quoted your post about the rules coming out soon to get other people to relax. :huh:

And Jason, I mod a forum with over 760,000 members. I'm well aware of what goes on backstage.

Sounds like you guys are working on it. I'm sure everyone's in pause mode waiting for the update.

Thanks,

Mike

 

[Kholi]

Been thinking about it alot this morning and I'm really liking the idea of the fest being restricted to actual monsters and not monster-like things or people. No one's brought it up but I'm guessing monster trucks aren't what you all had in mind either.

MAH - in regards to not having access to FX and such due to low budgets, I'm finding lots of resources on how to pull off what I'm needing on the cheap. Or at least relatively cheap. Looks like its going to take a LOT of work and practice on my part to keep any FX realistic, but pushing the fest in this direction is pushing me to explore something I normally wouldnt do given looser guidelines. And to me thats pretty damn cool.

Great, positive attitude. Let's see how many people drop out, though.

I'm kinda with Horrigan, though. MOnsters require a lot of FX treatment to sell, it's really no less taxing than trying to do post VFX of an interstellar war.

Vampires and Zombies being the easiest, might as well be sociopathic monsters in there too to allow more people with less money to enter.

Anyhoo, mods know best.

 

[teresadecher]

If you were to change it, what type of "monster" would you be banning? Would you just ban the idea of a movie about evil people and would any mythical monster still be valid? Or does it have to be a traditional monster, ie, zombie, vampire, warewolf.. etc. I'm a little confused.

 

[Kholi]

If anything, I think they're encouraging the craziest monster you can pull off.

 

[Larry Rutledge]

The revised definition is coming shortly ... the discussion about whether it should have come sooner or later is moot at this point. We posted the rules when we did because we wanted to give everyone the most advantage possible; and to be fair, many people were developing stories/securing locations/etc before the rules were posted, so while I agree we need to nail the details down as quick as possible it is not this need to redefine that is causing issue with entries that might not qualify.

Also, indicated in those rules they were/are subject to change for a limited time.

We are only talking about pulling the psych definition of monster (a human who has a mental instability, e.g. Hanibal Lecter, or Jeffery Dahmer, etc). Any traditional monster (vampire, mothra, godzilla, wolfman, etc) or mythical monster (jersey devil, etc) will still be allowable.

I am closing this thread as the discussion is no longer constructive. I will post a new rules thread shortly with the revised definition.