oktava mk012

HerzogisGod

HerzogisGod

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I love my oktava... I use it with the hypercardnoid capsule and it has served me well.


Filming a documentary now, and I would like to have a wider area of sound coverage for example, people off to the side and even m own voice if I ask a question. Does anyone use the omni-directional capsule on their Oktava?

Will it pick up sound clearly/brightly on the side and behind the camera?

The Sound Room sells it for $98... seems like a good price but just wanted to ask these questions before I purchased


Thanks
 
THe biggest part of your problem as I see it is how are you going to get the mic with 12"-18" of your voice at the same time as the on-camera talent? One option is to clip a lav (wired is fine) onto yourself, keeping the 012/hyper cap boomed on the on-screen talent. Another option would be to get second boom, on a fixed stand, and boom yourself with a second hyper, since you'll likely be stationary behind the camera.

Not sure what kind of coverage you want with the wider stuff. Is there a crowd of people, of something.

The distance between the source you want to record and the mic is the most critical aspect of capturing quality dialog. Keep the mic within the distance listed earlier, and you're 75% there. The more you increase that distance, the more your problems multiply, by the power of 2 (get it, inverse square law, power of 2....I thought it was funny).

Good luck.

HerzogisGod said:
I love my oktava... I use it with the hypercardnoid capsule and it has served me well.


Filming a documentary now, and I would like to have a wider area of sound coverage for example, people off to the side and even m own voice if I ask a question. Does anyone use the omni-directional capsule on their Oktava?

Will it pick up sound clearly/brightly on the side and behind the camera?

The Sound Room sells it for $98... seems like a good price but just wanted to ask these questions before I purchased


Thanks
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I have a wireless for formal interviews... I'm talking more run and gun where the subjects need to move about in their world. I don't want to lose side conversations or hear the sound fade as I move the camera around from one person to another
 
I have the omni and it's amazingly wide field. It ruined my live recording of my band first time I used it because it picked up all the clattering of the coffeehouse at 90 degrees from it. If that is what you r looking for, you won't be disappointed. I love my oki's. But I agre with the post about lavs and the oki.
 
Herzog, Don't try to reinvent the wheel.
There is a reason NO ONE uses omni's (other than lavs) for picking up dialog.


Sometimes you just can't cut corners and expect XX results, IE: using a camera mic to pick up dialog.

Your question is very similar to asking "visually when I pan away from a subject to cover another person why does that person I panned away from go off camera?"

If you want that person "on camera" you stay on that person. If you want that persons dialog you stay on that person.
Those are the limitations you are setting for yourself by using a camera mic.
 
It's rough with documentary filmmaking... a boom pole isnt always an option... I found a capsule on ebay for a good price and will test it out
 
HerzogisGod said:
It's rough with documentary filmmaking... a boom pole isnt always an option... I found a capsule on ebay for a good price and will test it out
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Sure i'm not commenting on that. Just commenting on using an omni for a camera mic.
There is a reason its not done.

My comment about limitations using a camera mic is there to help you. Realize by doing it that way you might have to
adjust your shots, or cover things a bit different than you would if you have a sound mixer there doing it.
 
Omnis seem good for picking up random room noise. I.e. A restaurant interior? When else would you pull one out?
 
8string said:
Omnis seem good for picking up random room noise. I.e. A restaurant interior? When else would you pull one out?
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Put three of them together (properly arranged, of course) and you have stereo imaging with a Decca Tree array. Great for choirs, orchestras, etc.
 
I often use two omnis (Oktavas actually) spaced, at least 12 inches from each other. Great results for stereo recording. But HerzogisGod (Herzog wouldn't agree to that by the way), just go ahead and see what you'll do with the omni. Maybe you'll find a cool way of using it to your needs. Break the rules! Be an adventurer!
 
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