Ok color me impressed with vimeo + 1080p!

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Blackout

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After some bad false starts with vimeo I am now fairly impressed with vimeo + encoding. I put this extremely low light clip up and it is nearly identiclal streaming at 1080p as if you download the mp4.

http://vimeo.com/18330390


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PS: Happy New Year!
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Is Vimeos 1080P output superior to You Tube's codec crusher??
If you don't know the answer, I have accounts for both, and can check it myself tomorrow. was just wondering if one was better than the other, and why?
 
Regular vimeo is terrible but if you spring the 60 bucks for the year for vimeo + and then go into the secret hidden menu to enable 1080p streaming (which you have to do on EVERY video.. a bit annoying) you get stunning 1080p that I think does beat youtube.

here check for yourself:

Same mp4 uploaded to...

Vimeo:

http://vimeo.com/18320760

and youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO_h_Irqn_4&hd=1

Make sure HD is checked, 1080p on youtube... watch full screen on native 1920 1080p full HD screen.
 
Thanks. I really don't see a difference. Am I missing something??
And the bit-rate I've found works the best for You Tube, is around 9mb/sec, or less. Anything more never made a difference that I could see. I'm not sure what the final output is after their codec crusher is done with it though.

Hosting on my own site would require; My own site ;) , knowledge of setting up a website, and knowledge of how to host and stream video's. None of these attributes I currently posses. Nor do I have the desire at the present.
 
ajcourtney said:
it's more convenient to just host and stream the files yourself - then you can dictate the final encode.
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I agree with you on this but I make money off of youtube and adsense, and the bandwidth costs of people downloading massive amounts of raw big big files from blackout.com was getting outrageous.

If it's important I encode 25mbit 2 pass, if not, 15 mbit one pass.. sony vegas encoder rocks everything else, it just does.
 
the trick is to find a hosting company that doesn't charge you for throughput and doesn't throttle back access to the shared server. of course, they also have to give you the opportunity to stream FLV in the package you want to use. this is why i use 1and1.com instead of someone like hostgator.com

as far as how to do it, if you build your site on wordpress (which i highly recommend for non developers since it takes a lot of the complexity out of the structure of the site and permits you to have both a static informative content site with the dynamic nature of a blog site), a lot of the coding can be handled by plug ins. then you find a theme "out there" that formats your content in the manner that fits your site's layout and intentions. beyond that, then it's basically all php and css scripting to customize the formatting of the site per your vision. the nice thing about wordpress is vast array plugs that take the heavy coding and do it for you - really a great "open source" platform.

having zero web development experience (not even knowing what WP, css, or php was), i threw together our site in a couple of months, teaching myself everything required to format the site to its current state. it is still very much a work in progress, but at least i've got the general layout and direction established and now it's just content production with minor tweaking (like mod'ing the nav bar to do something like the jsquery stuff that sony used for the videon.com pro site).

www.centerstagemedia.com

the embedded film media is rendered FLV via ffmpeg for streaming and is handled via a really cool plug i found in the WP community. we can also stream very high quality (320K) MP3's with an embedded audio player instead of accepting the extremely limited compression options offered by other hosting sites for audio.

again, we did this because we don't want to drive traffic to youtube or vimeo, we want to drive traffic to our site and we also want to have control over the final rendering of each file. CenterStage is the media content producer for a couple of record labels/entertainment businesses that we will also be launching upon signing talent, so it's even more crucial for us to have total control over the distribution of all of our content.
 
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Hey Blackout, thanks for looking and the feedback. I want to know if the footage looks smooth to you. Can you look at it one more time? On another thread in the forums, people seem to think that at about 43 seconds, when the camera pans, the video stutters. To me, it is so very, very slight. Also, before this workflow that I was given by Phil Bloom, I would never have considered shooting 24p because of the stuttering effect. But to me, this video looks very smooth and I am thrilled with that result. Can you tell me how it looks on your computer motion-wise?\

Here's the link again:

http://www.vimeo.com/18345432

Thanks!
 
larrys said:
Hey Blackout, thanks for looking and the feedback. I want to know if the footage looks smooth to you. Can you look at it one more time? On another thread in the forums, people seem to think that at about 43 seconds, when the camera pans, the video stutters. To me, it is so very, very slight. Also, before this workflow that I was given by Phil Bloom, I would never have considered shooting 24p because of the stuttering effect. But to me, this video looks very smooth and I am thrilled with that result. Can you tell me how it looks on your computer motion-wise?\

Here's the link again:

http://www.vimeo.com/18345432

Thanks!
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Took a good close look at it and it does look like something odd is going on from about :43 to :53 seconds and then when you cut to the water your motion cadence is correct again. Not sure what exactly is going on... did you change your shutter speed for that shot of you or whoever walking on the doc?

Everything else has nice smooth natural film look 24p film like motion cadence.
 
Blackout, thanks for looking. No, that isn't me, in this video, every person in the video was just someone who happened to be down by the water, I didn't know any of these people.
 
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