Oh 7d you tempt me.

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franck

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Anyone else in the same boat? I've had the d90 for about a year, but the noisy video, lack of controls and lack of different frame rates is getting to me. Still love the camera for what it is, but unless you shoot close ups all the time, it's frustrating to get a clean image out of its video.
7D video footage just looks soooo clean, with barely ANY noise in flat mode...
 
Having also owned the D90, and now shooting on the 7D, it's a big step up. I think you would be very happy upgrading.
The good thing is that if you have any manual focus Nikon lenses, they will work on the 7D. :)
 
Yes it is tempting. I might just use the DVX100b alittle longer too. I really want to upgrade my still cameras and like Nikon. But I sure want to use a DSLR with video too!!
 
Yeah, ... also have D90 and love it but lots of headache..
stil waiting for D400... but now counting my pennys :) maybe a scarlet 2/3
 
I have a GH1 and I keep looking at the 7D so I could use my existing and much superior lenses, among other things... and it's close to what I want, but just not close enough. I think. That decision crosses my mind pretty often. The competitors are all really similar, and none of them are quite there yet.
 
Zim said:
Yes it is tempting. I might just use the DVX100b alittle longer too. I really want to upgrade my still cameras and like Nikon. But I sure want to use a DSLR with video too!!
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I'm in the same boat. My DVX100b has served be well, but I'm not quite ready to upgrade to a EX-1 or similar investment. The 7D is very tempting as my first introduction to HD.

In fact, I have the chance to buy a 7D kit, new in the box for $2,100. I've been hemming and hawing the whole day.

Arrgh!
 
I'm on the same boat.
If Nikon doesn't release a full frame fully capable camera in the next 3 to 4 months... I'll become a Canon user...
 
the 7d is absolutely great in every respect except the aliasing, but that little thing is actually so bad that it's reason enough to pass. just like the d90 it limits you to shooting only closeups and blurred backgrounds if you want it to look good.
 
jeracravo, I'm sure you know the 7D is 1.6 not full frame. Your option at the moment is only the 5D.

Hey matt, that info you posted above is important to me. I was also looking sideways at the 7D. Thank you for posting it.
 
mattsand said:
the 7d is absolutely great in every respect except the aliasing, but that little thing is actually so bad that it's reason enough to pass. just like the d90 it limits you to shooting only closeups and blurred backgrounds if you want it to look good.
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Thanks Matt. I have to look into this "aliasing" issue more myself. It may be a deal breaker. I'm not looking for the 7D to replace a proper HD video camera (like the EX1) but more as an interim tool that can use creatively while getting use to HD tapeless workflow. It's a tough call.

Side note: You mentioned that the aliasing limits you to closeups and blurred backgrounds. I didn't notice this limitation on the following video (though I know it's a 5D Mark II). Unless it doesn't have the problems of the 7D, can you point out any aliasing that you see? Thanks.

http://vimeo.com/7058755
 
I have been back and forth and forth and back on the 7D and just can't seem to pull the trigger. The 5D has a better image IMO but is a little out of my price range. And I just have not seen the 7D produce anything that the HVX/HPX/GH1 can not. Barring the low light performance. I think I will wait on the next generation or if the ever elusive scarlett drops and if that happens I will step out of my range if it's good.
 
I'm very tempted by Canon, but its the 5Dm2 that has my attention. It's functionality is as close to perfect as we can get these days, IMO - Full Frame, 23 MP stills, killer video.

I just cannot stand the Canon UI, at least as it pertains to stils. I find it takes multiple steps to accomplish things I can do with one button press on a Nikon.

I will see what they offer with the D400/D800. If they don't catch up on the video end then I, too, will be switching brands.
 
I've almost order the D300s and the 7D twice now but backed down at the last minute. A better price drop or couple hundred dollar rebate on the D300s would get me to buy it for the photography side. I won't buy the 7D for photography and won't buy it for video only.

If Nikon and Canon can't fix some of these issues I'll just buy a traditional HD video camera.
 
I've been looking everyday at the footage my friend/co-worker shoots with the 7D. Greenscreen, wide outdoors, slow motion indoors, shooting against the sun, at low light dusk, purposely shooting bad... and it just looks like a generation ahead of my beloved D90... Of course the 7D is not perfect yet, but a much nicer starting point to get clean and workable images than the Nikon... The dynamic range is fantastic, and I haven't noticed much of the aliasing issue.
Anyhow... I've got the finger on the trigger, but I'll probably be reasonable and wait a few months, see what pans out in the DSLR video world.
 
mattsand said:
the 7d is absolutely great in every respect except the aliasing, but that little thing is actually so bad that it's reason enough to pass. just like the d90 it limits you to shooting only closeups and blurred backgrounds if you want it to look good.
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It's really more of a problem in 720p. 1080p looks great most of the time. there is some promise with the external Caprock filter though.
 
I would suggest, for anyone that can afford to do so, stop standing on the fence and just jump off: Get a 7D, shoot with it for a while and if you don't like it, go back to a D90 or GH-1.

If you have to sell blood (or primary gear that provides you income) then you should think twice.

Aliasing on all of these cameras suck to all hell. However, like Matt said, it's the only thing that really detracts from the 7D's image and it's at its worse in 720P or Wides with lots of distinct lines. It could be worse, I guess. Another trade-off that I suspect won't be fixed (if ever) for a few more generations OR if another manufacturer jumps in with a cure, someone unsuspected.

Just get a 7D.

P.S. I like the 5D, having put both cams side-by-side and done composition comparisons ( i.e. use 85/1.4 on the 7D and a 135/2.8 on the 5D, match compositions and compare) the 5D is SUCH a specific image. Love it for stills, looking forward to 24P, but man that sucker is just crazy specific. Wides, certain effects, etc, all good. Otherwise, 7D for me.
 
mattsand said:
the 7d is absolutely great in every respect except the aliasing, but that little thing is actually so bad that it's reason enough to pass. just like the d90 it limits you to shooting only closeups and blurred backgrounds if you want it to look good.
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Of course that didn't stop you from shooting a feature on it. :beer:
 
exactly. it was exactly what i needed at the time and we worked around most of the problems. i would get a 7d if i needed it now, but i don't so i'll wait for something better.
 
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