Odyssey7 & Odyssey7Q Status Update

roro20 said:
I might have missed it on here... thought I've been following thgis thread fairly close. But, what is the reason there is not the ability to delete clips on the 7Q. Seems like that is something one would want to do quite frequently given the amount of data that coiuld get eaten up on one shot to only end up as an unusable bad take. Anxiously awaiting ours... been on pre-order since the first week in May from Abel Cine.
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We are looking into the possibility of this option.

Memory systems such as SSDs do not store data in a purely linear fashion, dropping files one after another. They are instead spread across various sections within the memory in parallel, with a driver keeping track of where everything is located. This process greatly increases the speed the drive can read and write data. Think of this as filling multiple buckets of water at once rather than one bucket after another. If data is deleted then a little bit from each of these buckets is withdrawn and the map of available memory in the drive begins to resemble Swiss cheese. Hunting down and filling in available memory blocks greatly slows down the SSD, and this can compromise performance. If you are recording files that require a high data rate - such as 2K RAW 240fps - then if performance drops too much it could lead to dropped frames, which is something we will never let happen.

We're looking into the possibility of deleting just the last take, as this should not effect the data speed too adversely. But going through the directory and randomly deleting takes is not gonna happen. Your data is too precious.
 
Mitch Gross said:
We are looking into the possibility of this option.

Memory systems such as SSDs do not store data in a purely linear fashion, dropping files one after another. They are instead spread across various sections within the memory in parallel, with a driver keeping track of where everything is located. This process greatly increases the speed the drive can read and write data. Think of this as filling multiple buckets of water at once rather than one bucket after another. If data is deleted then a little bit from each of these buckets is withdrawn and the map of available memory in the drive begins to resemble Swiss cheese. Hunting down and filling in available memory blocks greatly slows down the SSD, and this can compromise performance. If you are recording files that require a high data rate - such as 2K RAW 240fps - then if performance drops too much it could lead to dropped frames, which is something we will never let happen.

We're looking into the possibility of deleting just the last take, as this should not effect the data speed too adversely. But going through the directory and randomly deleting takes is not gonna happen. Your data is too precious.
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Mitch, thanks for explaining this. Most retailers would never explain why such an option wouldn't exist but you elaborate on everything both logically and clearly. I've learned quite a bit since joining this forum and its thanks to people like yourself.

This alone in my opinion is a clear indication that Convergent Design not only cares about their products, but their customers. When the rush for everything dies down (and my finances are available) you definitely will have my business.
 
killagram said:
Mitch, thanks for explaining this. Most retailers would never explain why such an option wouldn't exist but you elaborate on everything both logically and clearly. I've learned quite a bit since joining this forum and its thanks to people like yourself.

This alone in my opinion is a clear indication that Convergent Design not only cares about their products, but their customers. When the rush for everything dies down (and my finances are available) you definitely will have my business.
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Plus one! This was the best explanation I've ever read about this issue. I wish all companies would be so forthcoming and articulate. Thank you Mitch!
 
** blushing **

Thanks, guys. These and all the other kind comments are very much appreciated. It's much of what my job as Director of Communications is all about.
 
Hello Mitch,
can I use the Convergent Design 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive for Odyssey Q7 for other SSD recorders like the Blackmagic Hyperdeck Shuttle? Or is it ONLY usable in the Q7?

Thank you.
 
Are there any shipping news? My reseller bandpro munich havent heard anything about shipping to europe yet. I preordered in june, so "all preorders till end december fullfilled" is still on track?
 
mcgeedigital said:
Mitch,

Does the Odyssey 7 have HDMI to SDI cross conversion built in?

Thanks
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Yes always on and both ways I believe. It's worth noting I was surprised to find the HDMI ports are mini-HDMI, but I guess its not that surprising since it helps fit all that stuff in there...
 
any updates on the odyssey 7 (non Q) model?

i would love/need to put the purchase on the 2013 tax forms.

ymmv

be well.

rob
smalltalk productions/nyc
 
I'm hopefully going to find time to do a recent write up in the next couple of days, but just a quickie to say we've now completed two "proper" shoots with the NEX-FS700 and Odyssey 7Q combo. The 1st was an underwater shoot (feeding Odyssey top side via SDI), the second strapped to a Le Mans racing car, shooting from dusk in to night. Both at 2kraw, 100 fps, the odyssey performed flawlessly, and the results are great, miles beyond the standard on board AVCHD, given the challenging conditions we landed ourselves with I doubt we would have been able to get anything useable were it not for raw output.... And having access to continuous at HFR is a God send.

All in all, very pleased with our new addition (even more so with the added functionality around the corner)
 
berlinfool said:
Hello Mitch,
can I use the Convergent Design 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive for Odyssey Q7 for other SSD recorders like the Blackmagic Hyperdeck Shuttle? Or is it ONLY usable in the Q7?

Thank you.
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Interestng question. I'll have to wait until the Thanksgiving holiday has passedto confirm, but I believe you could use it anywhere it will fit. Note that you will have to reformat it for any new use, which means loss of files, so you can't swap it around. Also note that we do not use an enclosure on the SSDs but do add a top handle. This handle adds to the length but also adds to the width of the SSD, so it is very possible that it would not physically fit into a device like an Atomos recorder (I don't know -- I haven't tried). It will definitely not fit into the PIX240 as the handle will get in the way. I haven't tried the Hyperdeck Shuttle or anything else either.

You are the first person to ask.
 
SKYLIKE said:
Are there any shipping news? My reseller bandpro munich havent heard anything about shipping to europe yet. I preordered in june, so "all preorders till end december fullfilled" is still on track?
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Our guys are working Friday & Saturday of Thanksgiving weekend in order to get the next batch ready. A large shipment is headed out to the EU soon!

Because of our supplier's earlier snafu in running out of our BNC connectors, we're a little behind on our planned deliveries. It is possible that we may not get every single preordered Odyssey7Q out the door in December, but we're trying to catch up. We had hundreds of boards assembled waiting for the BNCs and now we're blazing through them, but every unit still needs to go through a complete assembly and then a rigorous QC process. It'll be close but we're trying.
 
Colinelves said:
Wohoo!
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+999

I'm sure the local distributor is sick and tired of me pestering them. And as my existing recorder was damaged over the weekend, i need that O7 asap otherwise i'll have to buy a different one which obviously i really don't want too!

cheers
Paul
 
Hi Mitch,

First of all, thanks for your incredible feedback on this forum. Big ups for sure.

I just got back from vacation and December is going to be a major shoot month for me. I have a weeklong shoot for HGTV starting on Dec. 9th where I would kill for some compressed 10-bit HD codecs. Files sizes need to be kept small on this project because it involves tons of footage, so RAW is out of the question.

Any chance of getting us some compressed codecs by the end of this week (Dec. 7th or so? I would need to spend at least 1 day before the shoot, getting the workflow down / tests)? I'm hoping to use my 7Q as more than a monitor.

Once again, thanks and sorry to be pushy.
 
gene_can_sing said:
Hi Mitch,

Any chance of getting us some compressed codecs by the end of this week (Dec. 7th or so? I would need to spend at least 1 day before the shoot, getting the workflow down / tests)? I'm hoping to use my 7Q as more than a monitor.
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+1. It's a great monitor, but I too am hoping to use it as more than that soon. RAW is not realistic for 90% of my work and storage.
 
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