NOAH -- directed by Darren Aronofsky

Ted Ramasola said:
Looks like the Gladiator meets 2012 meets Thor meets Jumanji meets Typhoon Haiyan...
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It looks watchable. If I didn't know it was Biblical I'd say it was straight up sci fi/fantasy. Doesn't' feel in the least bit spiritual. But then I thought the Passion of the Christ was just torture porn.
 
Looks promising. There is a treasure trove of biblical stories in the Old Testament that could have real potential. The story of Noah is a strong choice. At least this trailer makes it appear so.
 
Ryan Farnes said:
Apparently Noah is a hard core environmentalist and part of the "sin" of mankind is that they've raped the earth. (makes the chopped down trees make sense in the trailer)
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That sort of theme was depicted in the "Lord of the Rings" series where Saruman had all the trees chopped down to contribute to building his infernal army. The Ents used a flood to clear out the area around Isengard and winning the day over Evil.
 
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BTW, I wasn't trying to convert anybody. My plea was to people who are already Christians. And since the idea for this film is based on Christian book, it's inevitable that discussions of that nature will crop up in this thread. Maybe this thread should be removed, so nobody gets offended? :)
 
El Director said:
BTW, I wasn't trying to convert anybody. My plea was to people who are already Christians. And since the idea for this film is based on Christian book, it's inevitable that discussions of that nature will crop up in this thread. Maybe this thread should be removed, so nobody gets offended? :)
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I think we're all mature enough (or should be) to be able to discuss a story without delving into attributing personal religious significance into it. If, as you say, your plea was to Christians, then that sounds like you want to have a religious discussion, which would be better suited elsewhere. Here, we can discuss story and film without ascribing any particular level of belief or religiousity to it (as in, discussing the Bible as literature).

As far as the idea being based on a Christian book... not exactly. The Jewish and Islamic faiths both claim the Old Testament as divine scripture. Which is why, I think you can see, discussing it in terms of its religious significance, or ascribing its meaning to one particular faith, are doomed to cause the kind of spats here that we specifically prohibit.
 
I actually wasn't looking to start a religious discussion (the video was made for my youtube channel, not DVX user), but my views of the story from the script I read are influenced by my religious beliefs. I think for a lot of people, that will be the case. Sure, we can discuss the technical stuff, but I think talking about the story is going to be asking for trouble. The producers claim the story is based on the Bible, so naturally, discussion will come to that.
 
El Director said:
The producers claim the story is based on the Bible, so naturally, discussion will come to that.
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Sure, and as most adaptations go, there are varying amounts of alterations from the source material to the screen version. Since the story of Noah and the Flood, in reality only take up 100 or so verses in the Bible, there's a whole lot of 'augmentation' done to make a 2-3 hour film...

Same is true for say "300" (and the soon to be released "300: Rise of an Empire")... and that story could be 'conditioned' on biblical accounts of the rise of the Persian Empire, Cyrus, Darius, and Xerxes... but I digress...

The biggest problem with making biblical films, is the fact that there are many who judge the film not on film 'quality', but conformity to their beliefs.

In terms of Film 'quality', I will probably see "Noah" in theaters, I will probably not see "Son of God", the 'quality' as depicted in the trailers I've seen just doesn't grab me.

On the other hand, I had high hopes for "Pompeii", but alas, while there were some pyrotechnics, and interesting CGI augmentations... perhaps due to having been looking at pre-christian frescoes and in particular the excavations of Stabiae, Herculeum, and Pompeii for years now... there was something 'flat' about the film...

Perhaps it was the PG-13 rating, which meant that most frescoes which depicted any form of sexuality, were bowdlerized out. Again because of the PG-13 rating, any red blood flowing gladiator displays were out. etc.

The HBO "Rome" series, and the Starz "Spartacus", while often appealing to the 'prurient', also did a much better job on these sorts of elements, and of course, would have an R rating, if not X. "Spartacus" seems to have a TV-MA rating, while "Rome" does not seem to have a rating at all...
 
If it is true that you can't discuss a film without discussing the religious or political issues of the film, then that film simply can't be discussed at DVXuser. This isn't new.

I don't think that's at all true in this case, though.
 
Of course this is not the first time, or the last time a movie is made where they didn't exactly follow the book it's based on to the letter, biblical or not. There are plenty of movies out there that are way different from the books they are based on. Some of those movies might be really good, but a few of them really pissed off the fan base who were brought up on the book.
 
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