Cees Mutsaers
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Is it possible to get consensus about the hardware requirements for both PC and MAC to perform NLE with HD footage from the HVX200. What do you minimal need without getting irritated by the speed during edditing.
NLE hardware options
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Cees Mutsaers
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Seems like nobody has an opinion about this !!!!!
Sirius_Doggy
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PremierePro with the matrox Axio system.
Maybe not the best....but one way.
Maybe not the best....but one way.
Cees Mutsaers
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Let's say a budget of 5000 Euro without firestore/external HDD. So just the PC/MAC with enough RAM memory, HDD capacity and processing power.
SalaTar said:Harris/Leitch altitude
http://www.leitch.com/
is another thought both will be around 30 grand
FCP Mac and a decklink with a xserv..
I think you need to post a budget first..
Cees Mutsaers
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Tim, I second that question. I asume that you want the Dell monitor in either case.
Tim said:
The pricing of these two systems with 2g ram and 1Tb of raid0 HDD, when figuring in the differential on FCP5 vs AvidXprohd, is essentially the same price pt.
g5ppc
$3,554 cpu
$977 dell monitor
$915 FCP5
$5,446 total
xps400
$2,960 cpu
$846 dell monitor
$1,575 Avid Xpress Pro HD
$5,381 total
Editing software aside, I kinda like the Apple G5 simply because it can take 8 ram dimms (bldg 4-6g's w 512's is a heck of a lot cheaper than w 1g's or 2g's, and ultimately you can really turn it up as need arises for the future).
I guess the real Q is one of FCP vs Avid. The jury does seem to be out on that. But I will say that the integration of Apple, and the fact that FCP STUDIO gives alot of extra tools at still $400 cheaper than Avid ($1175 vs $1575), are pluses.
So, pending the software conundrum, I'm leaning toward the Apple solution.
[Note, though I'd love to go with a 17" Powerbook...I just can't justify the value pt given it's so much less processor and scaleability on ram.]
g5ppc
$3,554 cpu
$977 dell monitor
$915 FCP5
$5,446 total
xps400
$2,960 cpu
$846 dell monitor
$1,575 Avid Xpress Pro HD
$5,381 total
Editing software aside, I kinda like the Apple G5 simply because it can take 8 ram dimms (bldg 4-6g's w 512's is a heck of a lot cheaper than w 1g's or 2g's, and ultimately you can really turn it up as need arises for the future).
I guess the real Q is one of FCP vs Avid. The jury does seem to be out on that. But I will say that the integration of Apple, and the fact that FCP STUDIO gives alot of extra tools at still $400 cheaper than Avid ($1175 vs $1575), are pluses.
So, pending the software conundrum, I'm leaning toward the Apple solution.
[Note, though I'd love to go with a 17" Powerbook...I just can't justify the value pt given it's so much less processor and scaleability on ram.]
that was for the duel core 2.3ghz ($2499) with 1TB in drives (+$875) and 2g RAM (+$100 upgrade to 512x2 from apple and adding +$80 512x2 from online vendor) = $3,554 figuring at least avoiding tax from a reseller online...but perhaps that might come down a couple hundred $s more. all the better.
on the monitor...yes, i need a coupon!!
on the monitor...yes, i need a coupon!!
Cees Mutsaers
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Tim, why not wait for the IBM powered macs? shouldn't they supposed to be faster? or is a quad more than enough?
Tim said:that was for the duel core 2.3ghz ($2499) with 1TB in drives (+$875) and 2g RAM (+$100 upgrade to 512x2 from apple and adding +$80 512x2 from online vendor) = $3,554 figuring at least avoiding tax from a reseller online...but perhaps that might come down a couple hundred $s more. all the better.
on the monitor...yes, i need a coupon!!
Cees Mutsaers
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Tim, why not wait for the IBM powered macs? shouldn't they supposed to be faster? or is a quad more than enough?
Tim said:that was for the duel core 2.3ghz ($2499) with 1TB in drives (+$875) and 2g RAM (+$100 upgrade to 512x2 from apple and adding +$80 512x2 from online vendor) = $3,554 figuring at least avoiding tax from a reseller online...but perhaps that might come down a couple hundred $s more. all the better.
on the monitor...yes, i need a coupon!!
Cees Mutsaers
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ibm powered
ibm powered
Tim, why not wait for the IBM powered macs? shouldn't they supposed to be faster? or is a quad more than enough?
ibm powered
Tim, why not wait for the IBM powered macs? shouldn't they supposed to be faster? or is a quad more than enough?
Tim said:that was for the duel core 2.3ghz ($2499) with 1TB in drives (+$875) and 2g RAM (+$100 upgrade to 512x2 from apple and adding +$80 512x2 from online vendor) = $3,554 figuring at least avoiding tax from a reseller online...but perhaps that might come down a couple hundred $s more. all the better.
on the monitor...yes, i need a coupon!!
Cees Mutsaers
Veteran
ibm powered
ibm powered
Tim, why not wait for the IBM powered macs? shouldn't they supposed to be faster? or is a quad more than enough?
ibm powered
Tim, why not wait for the IBM powered macs? shouldn't they supposed to be faster? or is a quad more than enough?
Tim said:that was for the duel core 2.3ghz ($2499) with 1TB in drives (+$875) and 2g RAM (+$100 upgrade to 512x2 from apple and adding +$80 512x2 from online vendor) = $3,554 figuring at least avoiding tax from a reseller online...but perhaps that might come down a couple hundred $s more. all the better.
on the monitor...yes, i need a coupon!!
Cees Mutsaers
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oeps something went wrong. Ok I meant INTEL Macs.
jazzx
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Well how about that? HP xw9300: Dual Core Dual Opteron 280 16gb or RAM
http://digitalvideoediting.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=35560&afterinter=true
And that? Mac vs. PC VI: Boxx 7400 Dual Opteron 275 Workstation 16gb or RAM
http://digitalvideoediting.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=32951
I'm sure that in my view you have a lot better options than Mac or Intel, if Final Cut or OSX isn't the main thing you're looking for.
Cees Mutsaers
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still confused what NLE suits DVCproHD best when using a windows PC
You should ! Cause no one has the HVX200 yet to test it ! With all the respect, barry and everyone else that had that privilege does not come with SIMPLE CLEAR anwsers when it comes to reality matters, probably cause they don't know either. In my opinion we all going to face major problems when we buy HVX200 and we end up shooting in DV codec until we can find a way and solve those problems with non expensive ways.
example : look what I ask and never get - or able to find a simple clear anwser-information. Adobe doesn't provide, Canopus doesn't provide, microsoft doesn't provide and of caurse panasonic and our friends here at dvxuser doesnt provide useful information about those simple things. :
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?p=383329#post383329
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=41424
example : look what I ask and never get - or able to find a simple clear anwser-information. Adobe doesn't provide, Canopus doesn't provide, microsoft doesn't provide and of caurse panasonic and our friends here at dvxuser doesnt provide useful information about those simple things. :
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?p=383329#post383329
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=41424
Andreas - Canopus Broadcast supports DVCPRO HD. You need the latest software version (which is the "Broadcast") to edit with the HVX 200
Avid Express Pro HD will edit it.
Final Cut Pro will edit it.
With Premiere, right now you would need to purchase the new version of DV Filmmaker when it comes out. It will convert the MXF files into Avi files.
I don't know if this involves decompressing or recompressing as my knowledge of what is actually going on is limited, but I assume you will at least need twice as much disk space since you are essentially duplicating all of your footage.
Avid Express Pro HD will edit it.
Final Cut Pro will edit it.
With Premiere, right now you would need to purchase the new version of DV Filmmaker when it comes out. It will convert the MXF files into Avi files.
I don't know if this involves decompressing or recompressing as my knowledge of what is actually going on is limited, but I assume you will at least need twice as much disk space since you are essentially duplicating all of your footage.