New Vegas Pro 9 & AVCHD - Anyone tried it?

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Evro

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Hey Vegas users are probably already aware that Sony has just pre-released a Pro version 9.0 which claims to handle AVCHD without transcoding. I wonder though... has anyone actually tried to see if the strobing issues with HMC flavoured AVCHD @ 720 50/60P have been resolved yet?

Please let us know if you get your hands on this version and try it out :dankk2:
 
5/11/09.

We'll see what's what then.

I hope it's good because the more I use Vegas the more I like it.
 
As far as I can see these are the only specific new AVC features in Vegas Pro 9:

"Updated Sony AVC Rendering Templates New!

Vegas Pro 9 software includes several new templates for rendering to formats supported by online video sharing sites such as YouTube™. The new templates include Internet 4:3 SD 30p, Internet 4:3 SD 25p, Internet 16:9 HD 30p, and Internet 16:9 HD 25p."

"New! Browse XDCAM EX and AVCHD contents in Device Explorer"

Doesn't sound to me that this is what you are looking for. I hope I'm wrong.

Patrick
 
hmmm.... I dunno....

just scrolled through the list of "new" features and unless you have a red cam or xdcam its seems pretty slim. Unless I get some super upgrade deal (like $99) I might wait until v10. 8 has pretty much all I need
 
From the Vegas 9 Web site:

Comprehensive AVCHD and HDV Support
Vegas Pro 9 software includes support for high-performance native HDV M2T playback, and 601/709 color space handling. Experience superior SD downconversion and frame-rate conversion including 24p, and precision upconversion for HD-SDI mastering. Vegas Pro 9 software also has powerful no-recompress technology for faster render times.

It doesn't really address the AVCHD format well. But, I'm hopeful.

It also appears that it will be able to read timecode in BWF files and auto-sync (I hope, please, please, please). :-)

Phil
 
Frame-rate conversion? Do you think that indicates the ability to transfer 30p footage to 24p? Can Vegas 8.x do that already?
 
A panasonic blu-ray DVD player that can playback AVCHD media is only $280.. Can't they just come out with a PCI H.264 decoder card for like $150 or something like that?
 
As for AVCHD (Panny version) and Vegas.
As of 8.0c, you can lay a native AVCHD (yes, even from the HMC150) files straight from the SD card into the timline, and view it, and edit it. No transcoding is required.

Now for the bad news, it takes lots of computer to do this and edit beyond simple straight cuts. If you are doing 3D, color correction, compositing, etc. the preview begins to slow noticeably even on an i7. On that note, having 8 processors, only helps with some things....... Other things requires more Ghz, not more processors.

That being said, I have been using Cineform to transcode my HMC150 stuff into AVI intermediary files. They edit SOOOO much better. When I built my latest PC, I included a 2Tb RAID array dedicated for video files, so disk space is not an immediate concern for me. Cineform uses all 8 processore quite well and transcoding is way faster than real time. In other words, even with the transcoding, I can ingest video faster than when I had to capture from tape.

Vegas PRO 9 - I hope they have improved the native AVCHD abilities. It is/was a little quirky, and playback speed in the preview window could be improved. There are enough other improvements in the PRO 9 package to make the upgrade worthwhile.
 
booggerg2 said:
A panasonic blu-ray DVD player that can playback AVCHD media is only $280.. Can't they just come out with a PCI H.264 decoder card for like $150 or something like that?
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Heard PS3 plays AVCHD, you can get a game console and blueray/avchd player.
 
MadHMC150 said:
Heard PS3 plays AVCHD, you can get a game console and blueray/avchd player.
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It does and if you get a PS3 with the built card reader it's even better. BUT there isn't a browser for the videos so you have to use the skip button to go through the files.
 
Ken Steadman said:
It does and if you get a PS3 with the built card reader it's even better. BUT there isn't a browser for the videos so you have to use the skip button to go through the files.
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You can also browse the card's folder structure and skip thru the files individually.. much faster that way..
 
Update...

Update...

Hey all I finally got a hold of Vegas Pro 9 and all I can say is that this version seems to be a pretty poor excuse for a whole version number upgrade. Definitely not worth spending the money to upgrade :(

Panasonic's AVCHD behaves in the same buggy way that it did under Pro 8c (that means forget using 50/60P in PH mode) you still have to transcode or record at the lower data rates if you want problem free editing.

Oh well it looks like I'll be skipping this version and waiting for Vegas Pro 10, but then who knows... by then I'll probably own a scarlet :D
 
I have much love for the Vegas.. as it was my home for a good amount of time but I sincerely believe that at heart it will always lean more towards consumer than professional. Even though you can do the same edits and effects on vegas than you can on any other NLE, I think the way the platform handles different types of footage in different codecs is what really sets NLE's like fcp and avid apart from vegas and I dunno.. windows movie maker.

Just thinking aloud.. don't hate ^_^
 
MadHMC150 said:
Heard PS3 plays AVCHD, you can get a game console and blueray/avchd player.
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When I bought a Transcend 16G card, I paid an extra $5 to get a USB reader with it. I plug that straight into the PS3 USB port, Browse the card (there is a little trick there, the files don't show up straight away, you have to browse to the directory that holds the .mts files), and play them straight from the stick. They play flawlessly, great to see the rushes on the 1080P projector.

As a bonus, the USB reader fits like a glove into the Pelican SD card case (by removing the rubber holder for two SD cards), so I always know exactly where it is...

Chris.
 
Tom, other than the Vegas features you mentioned, one of the big drawcards for me is the superior audio handling with it's support for DX & VST plugins, also how easily you can keyframe & do envelope functions. For short form / music montage style editing Vegas is the go to package, I doubt I'll be changing platforms any time soon :D
 
Evro said:
Tom, other than the Vegas features you mentioned, one of the big drawcards for me is the superior audio handling with it's support for DX & VST plugins, also how easily you can keyframe & do envelope functions. For short form / music montage style editing Vegas is the go to package, I doubt I'll be changing platforms any time soon :D
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I will give you that one hands down. Editing video game montage footage is definitely best done on a Vegas/AE combo as well.
 
I will say this. I have the 9v in 64bit trial. It does the 72060p much better. It also renders very fast. I did a test and ver8 was ony at 42% when 64b V9 was done. I am running windows 7 64bit with 8 gig of ram and the fastes amd quad they make
 
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