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Paul_Maxe

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An outdoor muay thai kickboxing tournament. The ring will be outside but the majority of it is covered in a tarp to keep the sun of of the fighters. I wwont have much time to test lighting and wont have any lighting equipment available. Any suggestions on settings for shaded daylight/fast motion?

I just got my camera and I need to be up to speed by July 17th.(the day of this event)
 
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That's a hard question to answer...so many variables. I would suggest you do some test shooting to see what kind of footage you are getting and then ask some specific questions based on your results...

If worst comes to worst, you could just set everything to auto...the camera does quite well in this mode.

Tell us more about what you are doing and what the end product is going to be...
 
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We will have 2 dvx100a's to **** a kick boxing event. The plan is to take it all the way to dvd. The dvd's will be sold to members of the gym's that are participating and their family/friends. I just want to get good quality footage. Anyone done this type of work that can suggest some basic settings? ???
 
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[quote author=Paul_Maxe link=board=Events;num=1089233955;start=0#2 date=07/07/04 at 23:08:49]We will have 2 dvx100a's to **** a kick boxing event.
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I wish you luck. It must be a pain in the ass to **** an entire kick boxing event. Hope it comes out all right.
 
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Normally, you'd want to throw some lights on the boxers to balance the exposure in the ring with the sky and outdoors included in the shot. Without lights, you'll have no problems exposing for the boxer, but you'll have to accept that any sky and outside background is just going to blow out. I'd recommend 24P--everyone loves the look. White balance before you start shooting and whatever you do--set the iris *manually* using your zebras. If the iris is on auto, the exposure is going to be all over the place as you move the camera around.
 
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[quote author=Slapdragon link=board=Events;num=1089233955;start=0#3 date=07/07/04 at 23:19:34]

It must be a pain in the ass to **** an entire kick boxing event.  Hope it comes out all right.[/quote]

Indeed.
 
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[quote author=Slapdragon link=board=Events;num=1089233955;start=0#3 date=07/07/04 at 23:19:34]

I wish you luck.  It must be a pain in the ass to **** an entire kick boxing event.  Hope it comes out all right.[/quote]

LOL. Mispelling can be so much fun!
 
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[quote author=Barry_S link=board=Events;num=1089233955;start=0#4 date=07/08/04 at 07:48:12]Normally, you'd want to throw some lights on the boxers to balance the exposure in the ring with the sky and outdoors included in the shot.  Without lights, you'll have no problems exposing for the boxer, but you'll have to accept that any sky and outside background is just going to blow out.  I'd recommend 24P--everyone loves the look.  White balance before you start shooting and whatever you do--set the iris *manually* using your zebras.  If the iris is on auto, the exposure is going to be all over the place as you move the camera around.  [/quote]

Is there a book/online guide that can make sense of all of the technical jargon for me? Honestly I don't know what "zebra's" outside of Africa are...Anyone know of a good source for learning the basics of exposure/lighting/shutter speed/zebra and general camera settings?
 
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Also, at the very least use a broadcast monitor when setting up your camera to see what you are really getting if you don't know your camera very well yet.
 
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[quote author=Keith To link=board=Events;num=1089233955;start=0#8 date=07/08/04 at 12:54:38]Paul, this link should give you the basics you'll need to get started.

http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/index.html

Good luck with your shoot[/quote]

Thanks! Can anyone break down for me the steps you would take when setting up the camera outside? ie:

1)Switch to F5
2) etc... etc...
 
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1. F5
2. Turn the camera to manual Iris.
3. If you're outside I'd use an ND filter.
4. Read your manual and find out what the Zebra setting is and how to turn it on. Zebra's are a series of striped lines that let you know if you're over exposed.
5. Manual adjust the Iris so you're not shooting white (if its too bright, it'll be nothing but zebras and it'll look all white)

The hardest thing to do when you're outside is to match the sky with the people you're trying to shoot. So if you're going to be under a tent, that's best. The sky will always be blown out and you'll have to get into bounce cards and fill light...and color temp. adjusted lights...and...on and on!

0. Before you go, get your camera out and shoot! :) Trust me, I can tell you how to get to every option, on any of the 100+ lastest digital cameras...only because I use them every day.

Hope this helps!
 
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[quote author=Barry_S link=board=Events;num=1089233955;start=0#4 date=07/08/04 at 07:48:12]you'd want to throw some lights on the boxers[/quote]

That too! But I was thinking that maybe he couldn't because it might get A. get expensive B. Heat up the fighters C. Blind the other people watching the event.

You might just have to deal with it being overblown in the background or find out if you can bring lights. Before the event, go to the location and do some tests, post the grabs here, and everyone will tell you what you need.

Sorry I keep responding, I felt like trying to be helpful.
 
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I really appreciate the info. I am completely new to this. I am going to do some testing tomorrow with these settings...

When you say ND filter you mean the camera setting filter right? Like 1/8 or 1/64...Do I need to do anything to account for the fighters fast movements?
 
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So far so good. I have plenty of light since it is going to be shot mid day. I should probably set it to a higher shutter speed to make sure I dont get much blur right?

What about cinegama?
 
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