new to digital, shooting feature -- need advice

Ok, so I'm new to the forum, new to the 100a, and new to digital filmmaking entirely --- all my past experience has been with 16mm and steenbecks . . . . but I did search posts for these questions, so bear with me, and please give advice.

Urgency: so I'm shooting a feature in like two weeks. yes it is my first, but it will happen, and I finally was convinced by the producer that we didn't have the dough to shoot film (this is low low budget). . . . so I bought a dvx100a (seduced by the 24p), and have been trying it out, trying to learn the ins and outs over the last few days, I have a couple questions, though:

1) I finally got around to learning how to capture digital footage into FCP4 the other day and was VERY surprised that there were glitches (lines across the screen, each lasting a frame, admittedly, but far too many of them) in the footage. Is this a problem with me, the camera, the tapestock, or FCP? I was using the PQ tapes, and I will be using the MQ when I start shooting . . . . a worry, though, is that the lines seemed to appear when there was a lot of camera movement, I intend to shoot handheld with a LOT of camera motion, so it is important to know if this will always be a problem.

2) is it worth the dough for the anamorphic lens adaptor for the 100a? I am very concerned about the quality of picture being good enough for a 35mm blowup and I have heard (from another DV filmmaker I trust) that regular NTSC 4:3 just doesn't cut it if you want to go all the way to 16:9 (and given this is a fiction project I would like to keep that option open).

I appreciate any response to these concerns (and any other reccomendations or advice for a possible 35mm blowup) and be aware, I am really more of a director than a cinematographer at heart, there is just no one else that I trust to run camera for this project, so forgive my naivette on the technical side of things.

thanks.
 
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Re: new to digital, shooting feature -- need advic

Can you post a grab of the mystery lines?
 
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Re: new to digital, shooting feature -- need advic

When you put the clip into the timeline are you having the line issues or is it just during your cpature preview...also are you filming 24p 24pa 30p or 60i?
 
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The lines are in the FCP4 viewer window after I captured the footage. I shot the footage at 24pa and used the 2:3:3:2 remove feature when capturing it. the speed, motion, etc. looks fine, but at certain moments lines flicker on the screen. when I went in and looked at the footage frame by frame, I couldn't see the lines the same as when I was playing it . . . another friend suggested that they may just be artifacts of FCP4 playback that are not actually on the footage at all --- is this possible?

I did find a couple frames with actual problems, but I am new to this online forum business and having a hard time attaching the example frame. Anyway, if you look at the frame by itself, it looks like a chunk of the information is in the wrong place. I will try and figure out how to post it soon.

thanks.
 
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Re: new to digital, shooting feature -- need advic

Hudson what do you think about this being a head issue?

Tokyodrifter...when you play the tape back from your camera onto a TV do you see the artifacting...Another thing you could try doing is opening up the captured file in quicktime to see if the lines are there.

Play the footage from FCP back into your camera and out to a TV directly from the timeline to see if the artifacting is still there..Let me know if you just see it when you are in FCP.

Also, what codec are you using to capture your footage?
 
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Wow, two of these in one day. I just answered a question about this in another post today. Basically, what you are seeing is called "tearing". Relax, there is nothing wrong with your footage. Tearing can be caused by two different things. One, being that your computer is having a tought time keeping up with the action, and two, the full frame, frame rate is not in sync with your computer monitor. Your problem sounds like number two. When you are playing back your footage, action scenes suffer more from this, the frame is basically being chopped in two by your computers scan lines. Lets say that your monitor is running at 75Mhz, and you are playing back your footage at 24fps. Obviously 24 does not go into 75 very evenly, so there will be instances that the you are seeing the top half of the screen with one frame displayed, and the other half of the screen with another frame displayed. THere really is nothing wrong with your footage and when you render it out it will playback fine whether it be a TV dvd player, or even your PC/MAC dvd player, or playing it back from tape onto your TV.
 
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Re: new to digital, shooting feature -- need advic

Hey,

thanks for the advice. I will try outputting the footage to a monitor and come crying back if there are any problems.
 
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Re: new to digital, shooting feature -- need advic

oooop, when I said "monitor," I meant TV monitor. . . .
 
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Re: new to digital, shooting feature -- need advic

http://www.parasiteproductions.com/eos_trailers

well - we had a "stutter" issue on my feature, which got resolved - there are some quirks, especially shooting 24pA... if you are not going to uprez to film I would reccomend shooting 24p standard w/ a conform at 29.97... I wish we had. The 24p is nice, but is most beneficial if you are going to uprez to HD and/or film.

That said the footage looks very good, and is filmlike if you light it well.

check out our preview here:
http://www.parasiteproductions.com/eos_trailers

b
 
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1) It's probably a display issue on the computer. Yes, this can happen.

2) If you're going to blow up to film, then I'd recommend using the anamorphic adapter. This will give you the highest resolution possible.

Also, before switching to MQ tapes be sure and clean your heads to be safe...although there's debate wether PQs are dry like the MQs.
 
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Re: new to digital, shooting feature -- need advic

thanks for all the advice, the last footage I shot I output to a regular TV monitor at the same time as I captured it and there were no lines, so it looks like it's just a FCP display issue.

as for the uprezing to film . . . . that's the hope, man: ya gotta dream.
 
parasite said:
http://www.parasiteproductions.com/eos_trailers

well - we had a "stutter" issue on my feature, which got resolved - there are some quirks, especially shooting 24pA... if you are not going to uprez to film I would reccomend shooting 24p standard w/ a conform at 29.97... I wish we had. The 24p is nice, but is most beneficial if you are going to uprez to HD and/or film.

b

what happened to your 24pA footage. I've finally comvinced myself pA was the way to go though the last couple things I shot were 24p. What went wrong and why if 24p better?
 
Another question you asked...using the Anamorphic adapter for film out? Well I would suggest if your doing film out the ana will give you potentially the best resolution for 16:9 on the dvx100a. Although.. if your shooting soon the ana takes some work to adjust to its few quirks.... so you may not have the time for it. DO you have Barrys Greens book?

I would not shoot 24p unless I specifically wanted to edit in a 60i timeline. Although I havent seen a film out of 24pa? Anyone has?
 
parasite said:
http://www.parasiteproductions.com/eos_trailers

well - we had a "stutter" issue on my feature, which got resolved - there are some quirks, especially shooting 24pA... if you are not going to uprez to film I would reccomend shooting 24p standard w/ a conform at 29.97... I wish we had. The 24p is nice, but is most beneficial if you are going to uprez to HD and/or film.

That said the footage looks very good, and is filmlike if you light it well.

check out our preview here:
http://www.parasiteproductions.com/eos_trailers

b


Parasite is that shot in sqquueze and letterboxed in post or just letterbox?
 
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