New Panasonic MFT cine camera?

The rumors about the R5 were incomplete, not inaccurate. Though yes again that was company announcement, but I think that the key specs were rumored beforehand. The A7SIII rumors were basically right on the money. What was inaccurate had been flagged by the site as uncertain. And the accuracy and completeness of the rumors grew up until launch day
 
Not sure where they are with the specs after skimming here, but that thing can't be more than 500 bucks.

I hate to be negative about something someone is making, but the [presumed] lack of innovation is irritating.

[The S5 - even a bit too high - is very welcomed.]
 
no apparent ND - seems a fail to me.

Beyond that I think it is quite cool.

My experince of GH4/5 is that the single mount point demands a cage or the focus motor spins the body and HDMI out the side is a catch point
 
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Leaked specs and pictures https://filmmakers.pro.br/wow-vazar...tLXUBODB8YNGL16kI0_MeEggREqvhit_bDQyioIcokCw:

Type
Type: Digital Single Lens Mirrorless camera
Recording media: SD Memory Card / SDHC Memory Card / SDXC Memory Card (Compatible withUHS-I / UHS-II UHS Speed ​​Class 3 standard SDHC / SDXC Memory Cards and UHS-II Video Speed ​​Class 90 standard SDXC Memory Cards.)
Lens mount: Micro Four Thirds mount

Image Sensor
Type: Live MOS sensor
Camera effective pixels / total pixels: 10.28 megapixels / 11.93 megapixels
Aspect ratio / Color filter: 4: 3 / Primary color filter
Latitude: 13 stops (V-Log L)

Still Image
Recording file format: JPEG (DCF, Exif 2.31)
Aspect ratio: 4: 3
File size (Pixels): 3680 × 2760 (L) / 2592 × 1944 (M) / 1824 × 1368 (S)
Image quality: Fine / Standard
Color space: sRGB

Motion Picture
Recording file format:
MOV: H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, H.265 / HEVC (Audio format: LPCM (2ch 48kHz / 16-bit, 48kHz / 24-bit *,
96kHz / 24-bit *)) * When attaching DMW-XLR1 (sold separately).
MP4: H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, H.265 / HEVC (Audio format: AAC (2ch))
System frequency: 59.94Hz / 50.00Hz / 24.00Hz

MOV

59.94Hz
- [C4K] 4096 × 2160
- 59.94p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265 / HEVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 59.94p, 150Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 29.97p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10- bit LongGOP) /
100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 23.98p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra ) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) /
100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)

[4K] 3840 × 2160
- 59.94p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265 / HEVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio
- 59.94p, 150Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP ) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 29.97p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 23.98p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps ( 4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)

- [Anamorphic 4K] 3328 × 2496 (4 : 3)
- 59.94p, 150Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 29.97p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 23.98p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG -4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)

[FHD] 1920 × 1080
- 59.94p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 29.97p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 23.98p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 100Mbps (4 : 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
50.00Hz

[C4K] 4096 × 2160
- 50.00p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265 / HEVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 50.00p, 150Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 25.00p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)

[4K] 3840 × 2160
- 50.00p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265 / HEVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 50.00p, 150Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 25.00p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio

[Anamorphic 4K] 3328 × 2496 (4: 3)
- 50.00p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265 / HEVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 50.00p, 150Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 25.00p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)

[FHD] 1920 × 1080
- 50.00p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
- 25.00p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)
24.00Hz

[C4K] 4096 × 2160
- 24.00p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)

[4K] 3840 × 2160
-24.00p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio

[Anamorphic 4K] 3328 × 2496 (4: 3)
- 24.00p, 400Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 150Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)

[FHD] 1920 × 1080
- 24.00p, 200Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit ALL-Intra) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 2 10-bit LongGOP) / 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM, High-Res Audio)

MP4
59.94Hz
[4K] 3840 × 2160
- 59.94p, 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265 / HEVC, AAC)
-29.97p, 72Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H. 265 / HEVC, AAC)
- 23.98p, 72Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265 / HEVC, AAC)
- 29.97p, 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H. 264 / MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
- 23.98p, 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
[FHD] 1920 × 1080
- 59.94p, 28Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
- 29.97p, 20Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
- 23.98p, 24Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
50.00Hz
[4K] 3840 × 2160
- 50.00p, 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H.265 / HEVC, AAC)
- 25.00p, 72Mbps (4: 2: 0 10-bit LongGOP) (H. 265 / HEVC, AAC)
- 25.00p, 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
[FHD] 1920 × 1080
- 50.00p, 28Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
- 25.00p, 20Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, AAC)
Variable Frame Rate
MOV
59.94Hz
[C4K] 4096 × 2160
- 29.97p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
- 23.98p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
[4K] 3840 × 2160
- 29.97p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
- 23.98p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
[Anamorphic 4K] 3328 × 2496 (4: 3)
- 29.97p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
- 23.98 p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
[FHD] 1920 × 1080
- 59.94p (Maximum output of sensor is 240fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
- 29.97p (Maximum output of sensor is 240fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
- 23.98p (Maximum output of sensor is 240fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
50.00Hz
[C4K] 4096 × 2160
- 25.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
[4K] 3840 × 2160 25.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
[Anamorphic 4K] 3328 × 2496 (4: 3)
- 25.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
[FHD] 1920 × 1080
- 50.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 240fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
25.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 240fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
24.00Hz
[C4K] 4096 × 2160
- 24.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
[4K] 3840 × 2160
- 24.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
[Anamorphic 4K] 3328 × 2496 (4: 3)
- 24.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 60fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)
- [ FHD] 1920 × 1080
- 24.00p (Maximum output of sensor is 240fps), 100Mbps (4: 2: 0 8-bit LongGOP) (H.264 / MPEG-4 AVC, LPCM)

Focus
Type: Contrast AF system
DFD technology: Yes
Focus mode: AF / MF
AF mode: Motion picture: Auto Detection (Face, Eye, Body, Animal) / 225-Area / Zone (Oval) / 1-Area
Still image: Auto Detection (Face, Eye, Body, Animal) / 225-Area / 1-Area
AF detection range: EV -6 - 20 (F1.4, ISO100 equivalent, AF (Still image))
AF custom setting (Motion picture): AF Speed, AF Sensitivity
AF lock: Set the Fn button in custom menu to AF lock
Others: AF-ON, Continuous AF, AF + MF, MF Guide, MF Assist, Focus Peaking, Focus Ring Lock, 1-Area AF Moving Speed, Lens Focus Resume

Exposure Control
Light metering system: 1,728-zone multi-pattern sensing system
Light metering mode: Multiple / Center Weighted / Spot / Highlight Weighted
Metering range: EV0-18 (F2.0 lens, ISO100 equivalent)
Exposure mode: Program AE / Aperture Priority AE / Shutter Priority AE / Manual

Exposure
ISO sensitivity (Standard output sensitivity): Auto / 80 * / 100 * / 160/200/400/800/1600/3200/6400/12800/25600/51200/102400 * / 204800 * (Changeable to 1/3 EV step) * Extended ISO

Dual Native ISO
[Normal]
-Native ISO: 160, 800
- Auto: Auto / 80 * / 100 * / 160-51200 / 102400 * / 204800 * * Extended ISO
- Low: Auto / 80 * / 100 * / 160-800 * Extended ISO
- High: Auto / 800-51200 / 102400 * / 204800 * * Extended ISO
[V-Log L]
- Native ISO: 400, 2000
- Auto: Auto / 400-25600
- Low: Auto / 400-2000
- High: Auto / 2000-25600
[HLG]
- Native ISO: 320, 1600
- Auto: Auto / 320-51200 / 102400 * / 204800 * * Extended ISO
- Low: Auto / 320-1600
- High: Auto / 1600-51200 / 102400 * / 204800 * * Extended ISO
[Cinelike D2 / Cinelike V2]
- Native ISO: 160, 800
- Auto: Auto / 80 * / 100 * / 160-51200 / 102400 * / 204800 * * Extended ISO
- Low: Auto / 80 * / 100 * / 160- 800 * Extended ISO
- High: Auto / 800-51200 / 102400 * / 204800 * * Extended ISO
Exposure compensation:
- Motion picture: 1/3 EV step ± 3EV
- Still image: 1/3 EV step ± 5EV
AE lock: Set the Fn button in custom menu to AE lock

White Balance
White balance: AWB / AWBc / AWBw / Daylight / Cloudy / Shade / Incandescent / White Set 1, 2, 3, 4 / Color temperature setting 1, 2, 3, 4
White balance adjustment: Blue / Amber bias, Magenta / Green bias
Color temperature setting: 2500-10000K in 100K

Shutter
Shutter speed:
- Motion picture: 1 / 16,000 - 1/2
- Still image: 1 / 16,000 - 1 * Only the PTP command using the LUMIX Tether software for
still image shooting.
Other Functions

Master pedestal level: 31 steps

Luminance level:
- 8-bit: 0-255 / 16-235 / 16-255
- 10-bit: 0? 1023/64 ? 940/64 ? 1023
LUT view assist: Rec / Playback: HDMI / SDI
HLG view assist: Rec / Playback: HDMI (AUTO / MODE1 / MODE2 / OFF) / SDI (MODE1 /
MODE2 / OFF)

Anamorphic desqueeze display:
- 2.0x / 1.8x / 1.5x / 1.33x / 1.30x / OFF
- Rec: SDI
- Playback: HDMI / SDI
- Synchro scan: Yes
SS / Gain operation: Shutter Duration / ISO / Angle / ISO / Shutter Duration / dB
Color bars / 1kHz test tone: Yes (SMPTE / EBU / ARIB) / Yes
Knee control: Yes (in Like709 mode)
Level Gauge: Yes
Interface
USB: SuperSpeed ​​USB 3.1 Gen1 Type-C
DC IN: DC 12V (11.4-12.6V), EIAJ Type4

HDMI
- HDMI: HDMI Type A
- Audio: Stereo
- Monitor-through:
4: 2: 2 10bit (When [Rec Quality] is set to [4: 2: 2 10bit] or [4: 2: 0 10bit].)
4: 2: 2 8bit (When [Rec Quality] is set to [4: 2: 0 8bit].)

Down Convert: Auto / 4K / 30p / 25p / 1080p / 1080i / OFF
-
59.94Hz Playback : Auto / C4K / 59.94p / C4K / 29.97p / C4K / 23.98p / 4K / 59.94p / 4K / 29.97p / 4K / 23.98p / 1080 / 59.94p / 1080 / 29.97p / 1080 / 23.98p / 1080 / 59.94i / 720 / 59.94p / 480 / 59.94p
50.00Hz: Auto / C4K / 50.00p / C4K / 25.00p / 4K / 50.00p / 4K / 25.00p / 1080 / 50.00p / 1080 / 25.00p / 1080 / 50.00i / 720 / 50.00 p / 576 / 50.00p
24.00Hz: Auto / C4K / 24.00p / 4K / 24.00p / 1080 / 24.00p

SDI
- SDI: BNC Terminal, 0.8V [pp], 75 ?, 3G-SDI
- Audio: Stereo, SDI Sound Output Gain Adj .: 0dB / -6dB / -8dB
- Monitor-through: 4: 2: 2 10bit
-
59.94Hz Playback : 1080 / 59.94p / 1080 / 29.97p / 1080 / 23.98p / 1080 / 59.94i / 1080 / 29.97PsF / 1080 / 23.98PsF / 720 / 59.94p
50.00Hz: 1080 / 50.00p / 1080 / 25.00p / 1080 / 50.00i / 1080 / 25.00PsF / 720 / 50.00p
24.00Hz: 1080 / 24.00PsF

Ethernet
- Remote Control: LAN Terminal (RJ-45)
- Power Supply: PoE + (IEEE802.3 compliant)

Remote input:? 2.5mm
Microphone: Stereo, Wind Noise Canceller: OFF / Low * / Standard / High * When attaching DMW-MS2 (sold separately).
External microphone / external audio device input:
-? 3.5mm for external microphone / external audio device
- MIC (Plug-in Power) / MIC / LINE is selectable.
- Stereo / Lens Auto / Shotgun / Super Shotgun / Manual is selectable when attaching DMW-MS2 (sold separately).
XLR microphone: Yes with DMW-XLR1 (sold separately)
Headphone output:? 3.5mm
SD card slot: Slot 1, Slot 2

TC IN / OUT
- Count up: Rec Run / Free Run
- Time code mode: Drop Frame / Non-Drop Frame (When system frequency [59.94Hz] is selected.)
- HDMI time code output: ON / OFF
- SDI time code output: ON / OFF
- External TC setting: TC Synchronization / TC Output Reference
Genlock IN
- Genlock IN: ON / OFF
- Horizontal phase synchronization: -206 - +49
Fan: Auto1 / Auto2 / Normal / Slow
Lamp: Tally Lamp (front / rear) / Card Access Lamp / Power LED / Network LED

Wireless
Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11b / g / n, 2412 MHz - 2462 MHz (1-11 ch), Wi-Fi / WPA / WPA2, Infrastructure mode
Bluetooth: Bluetooth v4.2 (Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE))

Dimensions and Weight
Dimensions (W x H x D): Approx. 93.0 x 93.0 x 78.0 mm (excluding protrusions)
Weight: Approx. 545g (Body only)
 
Does it matter that the camera is unremarkable?

Maybe not.

Because if you are tooling up for a conference or whatever you might not need remarkable.. just solid and boring and 4k6010 is stills pretty good.

I think lack of ND breaks is because if I were tooling up for live events and remote operation Id want to be able to do them indoors or outdoors.
 
morgan_moore said:
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I think lack of ND breaks is because if I were tooling up for live events and remote operation Id want to be able to do them indoors or outdoors.
Click to expand...

Maybe they're counting on you to stop down the iris? Live events and remote operation are not necessarily shallow DOF-dependent. At my geographical latitude, even in harsh summer sun I can expose at ISO 160 1/50 shutter and f/11, 16, or 22. It's never brighter than that for me, or maybe I have to go down to ISO 100 worst case.

This is basically just a Z Cam E2 with Panny branding, right?
 
Yep you can even throw the shutter speed up to 1000 or even 10000

it never occured to me that those are 'legitimate' methods of operating a camera .. I wonder what the panny engineers think.

(clearly the motion cadence would be terrible to my eye)

Sure Im not thinking that the ability to shoot at 1.2 in the sun is a requirement.

ND is fairly normal in video cameras.. its in the EVA1 AF100 and most canon/sony have them

S
 
Don't get me wrong - I think it should have ND. I'm just postulating about how they think it will be used.

I didnt say anything about boosting your shutter speed! I'd definitely take deep focus and some diffraction over 1/1000 shutter for these purposes
 
With dual video outputs (SDI, HDMI) and timecode, I think this actually pretty appealing for just $2k. Chuck a Speedbooster on it or ask the folks at Kippertie for an MFT version of their Revolva ND lens adapters, and you'd have something pretty handy. And with both SDI and full-sized HDMI outputs, the external recorders most people have lying around these days will work just fine.

400Mbps 10-bit 4:2:2 only up to 30fps (it's 200mbps 10-bit 4:2:0 for 50/60fps) is my only real gripe with it.
 
It’s not a bad thing but who hasn’t got a couple of gh4s lying around or a bmc micro - I’ve got both - and that screen on the gh4 is very handy for trimming a remote setup

So unless you need 6 and are a proper events company I can’t see Joe normal (professional op) buying one?
 
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