New NVIDIA RTX 2080 with Turing Architecture

little bobby said:
I'm seriously considering building a new editing system around a new RTX 2080ti card and the new Threadripper chips..... but then I wouldn't have any free time for when my system is rendering.
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Just only do 8K footage and always more ambitious VFX, that will give you back your free time to enjoy your quiet cups of coffee during renders!

Bassman2003 said:
What price does everybody think it will come in at? $1299? $999?

I have to say, I was quite disappointed with NVidia over the whole bitcoin miner price blowup. I thought they should have offered some kind of 'discount to normal pricing' for system builders but they chose the path of greed as expected. Many folks who have purchased a lot of cards from them over the years just got shoved out in the cold imho.
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It is the classic law of economics: supply vs demand.
Is demand goes sky high, and supply can't keep up, then prices go up high too!

But I'm hoping for a silver lining:
1) secondhand prices should drop very low when crypto miners need to dumb their GPUs on the market
2) if the GPU manufacturers misjudge the next demand cycle (because miners buy less, for whatever one of many possible reasons) then we'll have a glut of new GPUs made instead, which will lead to much lower prices for new GPUs as they try to clear out their stocks of new GPUs
 
Here's a detailed description of the new geforce cards:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13249/nvidia-announces-geforce-rtx-20-series-rtx-2080-ti-2080-2070

I didn't read it all, I just looked at the tables. My first impression is that these cards will allow new programs to run: raytracing used to be extremely slow, it won't be so anymore; neural network training is also accelerated since the last generation, I guess this will improve on that. But for the stuff we do, I think all that part of the chip will stay unused. Maybe a future version of Premiere/AE/Resolve/whatever will use those raytrace cores or tensor cores efficiently for video work, but it will probably take years. Even so, maybe the new memory will speed up things on our side as well... or maybe not.

My point is: wait for actual tests with the software you use before deciding to go for the new generation or for second hand / discounted last gen.
 
I agree, for 95% of editors they will not see a big leap forward in speed from using this generation of cards.

It might even take several generations before we see widespread up take on the typical NLE software side of full use of the new features coming in this new generation of cards.

But if you're in the VFX or VR world, then you might see a possible advantage to jump onto this tech earlier rather than waiting a few more cycles of generations for the software developers to catch up.
 
IronFilm said:
It is the classic law of economics: supply vs demand.
Is demand goes sky high, and supply can't keep up, then prices go up high too!

But I'm hoping for a silver lining:
1) secondhand prices should drop very low when crypto miners need to dumb their GPUs on the market
2) if the GPU manufacturers misjudge the next demand cycle (because miners buy less, for whatever one of many possible reasons) then we'll have a glut of new GPUs made instead, which will lead to much lower prices for new GPUs as they try to clear out their stocks of new GPUs
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I am aware of supply and demand. That was not the focus of my discontent. I would have expected (or wanted) NVidia to offer the gaming community some sort of protection through the silly period. A coupon that would only have been valid if you were buying or building a complete system etc... You know, a little customer appreciation since many have been buying NVidia cards from when they pretty much first started. I call it greed.

But to your points, I would stay away from #1 and yes, #2 might happen but both NVidia and AMD have already forecasted lower demand going forward. I have read that mining GPUs are run 24 hours a day and often at full tilt. So these cards will be a new level of "used" compared to what we usually think of as normal wear and tear. Huge buyer beware imho.
 
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~35% performance boost but with more info now I think I’ll wait. The raytracing is groundbreaking but no doubt it will be a couple years until it’s really utilized in software, and no doubt it will take a big performance hit either way... which makes the 3000 series much more appealing. More performance will be wanted for the same price when software is really on market, and 35% over a 1080 TI which already has ample power probably isn’t worth either the upgrade for me or the extra cost.

Still a great piece of hardware though but it’s always good to let the hype meter die off before contemplating a purchase. If the 2080 TI was same price as the 1080 TI and I had a 9-series card or older it would be a no brainer.
 
I just purchased a second 1080 TI for about $450 on eBay, that's better to me than buying a 2080 TI for $1200.
I might want to buy a third 1080 TI if prices keep falling, after all, there is plenty of supply! :)
 
My gut feeling tells me resolve will take advantage of this new technology much earlier than Premiere Pro. Not sure what adobe is doing with all the hundreds of millions it collects in subscriptions, I don't see them leading anymore.
 
Yacht sales are up...

Cary, is the 1080ti a mining card? When you purchased it used, do you know if it was ever used for mining? I have read to watch out for road hard, hung up wet mining cards for sale. Just wondering.
 
Bassman2003 said:
Yacht sales are up...

Cary, is the 1080ti a mining card? When you purchased it used, do you know if it was ever used for mining? I have read to watch out for road hard, hung up wet mining cards for sale. Just wondering.
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It works like a horse, so who really cares! :)
 
Ken1212 said:
My gut feeling tells me resolve will take advantage of this new technology much earlier than Premiere Pro. Not sure what adobe is doing with all the hundreds of millions it collects in subscriptions, I don't see them leading anymore.
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Marketing.
 
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