Erik Naso
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So cool to see the process. I always enjoyed shooting in factories.
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/video/#assembly
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/video/#assembly
New Mac Pro Assembly Video
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Andrius Simutis
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I saw this during the keynote this morning and all I could think was that I want one without the black finish...that would look so cool if they just left it in the polished metal stage.
The best thing about it, is that it's fairly small. You can fit it pretty much anywhere. The second best thing, is that it's not THAT expensive compared to what Mac Pros used to cost back in the olden days. Of course, it's $3K for just the bare bones, and upgrading it to something usable, if you want it for film editing, for example, would still cost a few bones, but even so, stuff has come down in price. Amazing. I admit, I kinda want it as an editing rig...
Jeremy_Sawatzky
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That is an incredible feat of engineering, fitting that amount of power into such a small space. That no doubt adds to the cost.
BUT, I can't help but glance down at my new watercooled 6 core intel, nvidia cuda powered, 32gb ram PC which has more power than the base model apple unit and runs windows 7 with the adobe suite and it cost just under $2000 to build. I guess from my techie standpoint I wonder why someone would buy a less powerful system for more money.
BUT its probably because:
its brilliantly engineered
Its tiny
It has insane power for its space restraints
it will run seamlessly for years
it just plain works
designed from the ground up for professionals
As a working professional I can see them selling buckets of these.
nice job apple
BUT, I can't help but glance down at my new watercooled 6 core intel, nvidia cuda powered, 32gb ram PC which has more power than the base model apple unit and runs windows 7 with the adobe suite and it cost just under $2000 to build. I guess from my techie standpoint I wonder why someone would buy a less powerful system for more money.
BUT its probably because:
its brilliantly engineered
Its tiny
It has insane power for its space restraints
it will run seamlessly for years
it just plain works
designed from the ground up for professionals
As a working professional I can see them selling buckets of these.
nice job apple
Andrius Simutis
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I guess we still have to see what the more powerful versions come in at price wise, but I'll most likely be picking one of these up for the studio here. I think Apple was smart to not mention the pricing on the higher end options like the 12 core version. People now have the idea in their head that these are somewhat affordable, and the power hungry few that actually need 12 core processors will still be willing to pay whatever it takes to get one.
I don't really have a problem buying Macs over PCs from a cost standpoint as they hold their value and can be sold off for much more than a comparable PC after a few years. From a tech standpoint the Macs are more optimized holistically so that you wind up getting more in total performance than the sum of the specs would suggest. From a longevity standpoint there aren't any corners cut on the components so they hold up really well in the long run with little to no downtime. And I just can't stand the Windows OS, so yeah...I'll be sticking with the Mac and looking forward to being able to stuff one of these MacPros into a carryon bag to work remotely when I need to get out of Seattle.
I don't really have a problem buying Macs over PCs from a cost standpoint as they hold their value and can be sold off for much more than a comparable PC after a few years. From a tech standpoint the Macs are more optimized holistically so that you wind up getting more in total performance than the sum of the specs would suggest. From a longevity standpoint there aren't any corners cut on the components so they hold up really well in the long run with little to no downtime. And I just can't stand the Windows OS, so yeah...I'll be sticking with the Mac and looking forward to being able to stuff one of these MacPros into a carryon bag to work remotely when I need to get out of Seattle.
Just a gentle reminder that Mac vs. PC debates tend to get threads shut down . . .
Andrius Simutis
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KyleProhaska
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The top end D700 on the nMP people have compared to the 7970...saying they're basically the same. I don't know how true that is, but it seems to make sense. However you'd have two of them so that's quite a bit of firepower. The D300...not sure the equivalent. People forget though that even if you had the base $3k model you'd be getting two GPU's.
The 12-core model will probably be avoided by some due to the lower clock speed although higher number of cores. I would rather go for the 8-core with the higher clock speed and spend the extra dough on the GPU's. For someone like me, the 6-core is probably the sweet spot of price/performance.
Great video...very cool to see the ending where they put the text on it...magical.
Drives inside the computer case is old school. New high powered mini-computer cases (like the Intel NUC) and micro-ATX computers are designed to use external storage, with only one bootable SSD drive thats internal.
Bandwidth wise, external Thunderbolt drives make a lot of sense. You would need a dedicated RAID controller to compete with the speed of Thunderbolt v2, which would also likely be an external RAID drive box.
Whether or not it's better depends on what you want. Like anything, there are advantages and disadvantages.
And it's something new, which may take some getting used to.
I bought my first PC in 1988 and built my first PC in 1990. Since then, I've gone through about 20 home-built PCs and am still working with big black Lian-Li towers.
...But my next computer might be a mini-ATX with an external Thunderbolt RAID. (still waiting for Thunderbolt v2 to show up on PC motherboards)
It's really no different from working primarily from a laptop, except it's actually less portable.
Some people will dig on it; that's all fine. But there are downsides, too. If you want to switch out drives frequently, it's great. If you don't, it can be a mess.
Thing is with the huge Lian Li tower you get mostly everything in a single box (that you can upgrade more easily)... having 8-16 thunderbolt devices on your desk seems WAY more messy to me... but, to each his own.